It's amazing how many people I've seen on social media over the last two days who are bemoaning the use of violence we're seeing in Ukraine.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that Putin's invasion is a good thing at all.
No, what's interesting is that these are the same people who were actively supporting the rioters that were burning down the neighborhoods where they live back in 2020.
I suspect that they'll also be out front whining when Biden commits US troops to fight on Ukraine.
I guess that we should all feel sorry for outspoken liberal personality Joy Behar who's long put off (by COVID) trip to Italy is now threatened by the Ukraine invasion.
“You know, you just, you plan a trip. You want to go there, want to go to Italy for four years. I haven’t been able to make it because of the pandemic, and now this. You know, it’s like, what’s gonna happen there?” Behar lamented, referencing the disruption in global travel due to COVID-19, a virus which has killed millions around the globe.--
This notion that the invasion of Ukraine is responsible for things that were happening long before this crisis started, or that Trump is somehow responsible for one more thing that happened after his presidency was over, just sound like partisan crap designed to take the spotlight off of Biden and his failures.
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The one thing about the Behar quote is that it does speak to a reality regarding how this conflict will affect the rest of Europe and potentially, eventually beyond. It just reflects how more than not, we're compelled only after we're affected on a personal level. There are lesser conflicts which have been ongoing in the world which did not impact anyone beyond those in the immediate vicinity. Thus, no one who doesn't pay attention to world events even knew they were happening. But Behar's choice of words were indeed "less than honorable".
As to the conflict itself, it can't be said often enough that this isn't new stuff. It's long been known what Putin's ultimate objective is, and he's demonstrated that before with recent invasions, such as Crimea. It also can't be said often enough that he didn't try this crap while Trump was in office. He saw the obvious weakness in both Obama and Biden and saw this as a prime time to move.
It's also helpful to remember the deal struck during the Clinton years which disarmed Ukraine, making them vulnerable to Putin's desires. Despite Ukraine's flaws, it seems it might have been a good idea to accept them into NATO at that time, rather than make the weak deal which should have been seen as an invitation to Putin to act as he is now. Now, we're actually committed to helping to defend Ukraine because of that deal.
I've been among those who questioned why we should care, while acknowledging arguments pro and con. A good one is now at AmericanThinker.com.
Biden has done so much to give the impression to those like Putin that now is the time to act in ways we in this country would prefer not to see. Clearly, Afghanistan compelled this thinking. But so did our own border situation. We've touched on it already. Somehow, some clowns don't think the invasion of our border presents quite the level of danger Putin's invasion has. We simply don't have enough MS-13 murders in this country yet. Not enough fentanyl deaths. Not enough women and girls abused, trafficked and forced into prostitution. Not enough suffering to warrant the same level of concern and dismay as a Russian invasion of another country.
Biden's moronic attack on our energy supply is another, as Biden's stupidity once again made us dependent on others for our petrol. We were not only independent, but we were a source for the petroleum needs of other nations in direct competition with those who have only their own profits at heart (if they didn't, why would we have to beg OPEC to alter their production to lower costs to us?).
It's hard to argue that Putin wouldn't have tried this were Trump still in office. We certainly can't know with certainty. But the likelihood is that he wouldn't. Trump gave too many reasons why it wouldn't have been a good idea.
Stupidly false claims that smack of racism don't make your vague nothings any more rational.
Once again, for the "obvious-impaired..."
1. People supported BLM because oppression of black people is an evil reality in our history and good, rational people SHOULD stand on the side of the oppressed.
2. People, by and large, were opposed to all the looting and violence that coincided with some of the protests of the last two years.
3. That this looting coincided with the protests is NOT a sign that the looters were associated in any way with BLM or were anything but conservative provocateurs (in some cases) or a-political opportunists.
4. Those who suggest BLM and allies were connected with the rioting - with NO DATA to support this stupidly false charge - are siding with the racists and others who've been oppressing black folks over the centuries. "Black people are scary and violent" is a racist trope employed by racists and their allies. They should be ashamed.
5. People who support an end to oppression and who work for justice are OF COURSE opposed to Putin violently invading a nation unprovoked. Of course. Because that is so obvious, that anyone who can't see the obvious difference should smack themselves on their head with a 2x4 until their understanding improves.
Lord, have mercy.
You know, when you make idiotic and obviously false statements as a way to accuse someone of racism and marginalize their views, it just makes you look like the coward that you are.
1. I never mentioned BLM.
2. Yet I saw numerous examples of people I know who were actively supporting the rioters both in person and on social media. But please feel free to speak for those folks and pretend like my lived experience is trumped by your hunches.
3. Again, I never mentioned BLM. I'm pointing to what I saw and heard with my own eyes and ears.
4. Again, I never mentioned BLM or made any claims about BLM.
5. I'm confused, are you suggesting that you can speak for these unnamed "people"? Are you suggesting that those who claim to be pacifists are in favor of the citizens of Ukraine defending themselves? Why haven't you and your NVDA types booked flights to Europe to stop this conflict?
If you have any comments on the actual topic of the post, feel free to comment.
Ah, there it is. The clown screams "RACISM!!!" for lack of an intelligent argument.
1. People supported BLM because they're morons who believe the lies the BLM founders spewed when they exploited the deaths of thugs while breaking the law in order to gain power and profit.
2. Not enough people opposed all the looting and violence that resulted from the outrage provoked by lies about cops and why specific black people died during contact with them. Indeed, I'm unaware of any BLM leaders who provoked the violent protests calling out for calm. But I have heard a few of them threatening more of it.
3. To pretend the rioting, looting and destruction were NOT perpetrated by those associated with or influenced by BLM is just wishful thinking on the part of white-guilt progressives who refuse to acknowledge truth and reality.
4. Those who suggest BLM and allies were connect with the rioting aren't moronic progressives who aren't consumed with racism and identity politics and have far less connection to racists and "others who've been oppressing black folks over the centuries" (like other black folks today) than looters to BLM by a wide margin. There are many black people trapped in bad neighborhoods who know plenty of other blacks who are indeed "scary and violent" and have been victimized by them in a variety of ways. White progressives should be ashamed for trying to downplay that reality at the expense of those who have to deal with them regularly.
5. White progressive clowns who pretend to support an end to oppression and "work for justice" are hypocrites for doing so while they support at the same time, not only murder of innocent children, but also support the policies which result in the enabling of criminals who oppress law-abiding people in minority neighborhoods. Then for such to appeal to the Lord for mercy is thus blasphemous.
Art,
1. I think that BLM's support is a little more varied than that. But at this point, anyone who uncritically accepts or supports BLM is either willfully ignorant or exceedingly naive.
2. This is a great point. The "peaceful protesters" could have done many things to separate themselves from the rioters, or to have stopped (slowed down/hindered) the rioters. Finally, they could have helped the police by obeying curfews etc. This isn't to suggest that the protesters were responsible for the riots, only that they could have chosen actions that would have clarified the separation from the rioters.
3. I agree that everything that happened in 2020 fell under the banner of BLM. For better or worse, even the liberal press refers to what happened as "BLM riots". Whether intentional or not, the reality is that many of the rioters were indistinguishable from the protesters.
Early 2020, changes avatar to a masked selfie
Mid 2020. changes avatar to BLM raised fist
2021 changes avatar to boast of being vaxxed
Early 2020 changes avatar to STAND WITH UKRAINE
All along. considers himself a highly independent thinker.
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