Monday, November 11, 2024

WWJD?

 I've got a bunch of post election stuff and just haven't been motivated to post it.  Maybe I will sometime this week.

However, one thing I've seen quite a bit is people telling the world that they've completely broken off contact with family and friends who voted for Trump.   Many of these people were pretty nasty.   Surprisingly many of these people claim to be christians.   Strangely enough 3 of the identifying principles of a cult are as follows

  1. Isolating members and penalizing them for leaving
  2. Seeking inappropriate loyalty to their leaders
  3. Dishonoring the family unit

There are a lot of Harris supporters out there who sound exactly like this, shouldn't that at least speak a bit of concern?   

Strangely enough Jesus actually addressed this pretty directly.   He said that loving those who love you, is pretty easy.  That even the pagans do that.   His followers were called to a higher standard.  He told them to love their enemies, and those who persecute them.   Back in the day, their enemies could absolutely make their lives miserable, or could kill them.   Jesus was telling His followers to love those who could kill them.   Now we have christians advocating the complete opposite of this, they advocate hating those who voted differently and separating ourselves over politics.  

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That doesn't really sound much like Jesus at all.  

4 comments:

Marshal Art said...

Speaking only of myself, I will admit that I have a problem with associating with certain family and friends whose political and religious positions are opposite mine. But that's only that I don't bend over backwards to associate with them, not that I won't or don't. Had this election gone further to the dark side, it would have been harder for me knowing what it means for my family and friends, including those who voted for Kam-on-you-gotta-be-kidding-la Harris, and how they were too lazy to pay attention or worse, actually believe we'd be better off in a more expensive, more dangerous nation.

But on the whole, there's no way I can preach truth...either religiously or politically...to those who aren't associating with me. So total and complete estrangement just doesn't work for me.

At the same time, there was a time in my life when my sainted mother said in reference to me, "I can love you better at a distance." There's wisdom in those words.

Craig said...

Interesting. I have absolutely zero desire to disassociate from family or friends because of politics. Especially not to the level of them being dead to me as the left is advocating. As I've lost more and more family over the last few years, I'm more aware that some things just aren't as important as family.

That doesn't mean I don't think about blocking them on FB...

Marshal Art said...

Is family more important than human suffering? If by "politics" one keeps in mind the consequences of another's politics, it's not "politics" so much as those consequences which could compel me to cast out a family member or friend. Think of the worst things for which the Democrat Party is responsible and then try to argue that one's personal support for all but the worst absolves them of culpability for those worst things. "Oh, I don't agree with abortion, but..." Sorry, you voted for the party which seeks to make it legal nationwide from conception to after birth. "No...I don't support sex changes for minors, but..." Sorry, you voted for the party which seeks to block laws against such for the sake of minors. See where I'm going with this? I recently posted a list of all the ways, unrelated to abortion, in which people have died unnecessarily as a result of Democrat policies. Everyone who rejected Trump in 2020 is culpable for those deaths. Add to that things like job losses, businesses forced to close, rising prices for everything, criminals allowed to steal more stuff without penalty...all this alone is a lot very bad things perpetrated upon American citizens. It's become more than "hate Trump/support Harris-Biden". It's not politics anymore. It's good versus evil.

Ideally, I'd prefer a get-together where "politics" is not prohibited conversation so that those who only focus on "Orange Man Bad" can be made to see what their rejection of him truly means. They aren't seeing it or they're ignoring it.

So to a very real extent, to support such evil by one's vote is to be evil themselves and now it's a matter of whether family and friends are more important than the Will of God.

It pains me to look upon a relative or friend knowing they voted for these people who have harmed so many, and it seems to point it out makes me the bad guy. So be it. Now it's up to them whether or not they want to continue associating with "the bad guy" who holds them accountable.

It's far more than mere politics.

Craig said...

I see where you're going, but I also see what Jesus told us. Jesus seemed to think that the only reason to separate from family was for Him and His Kingdom. As my family keeps shrinking and getting older, I've come to realize that it's important to maintain contact with them. I don't know about you, but my family is full of people who've done all sorts of bad stuff (including me) I don't expect them to be perfect.

Look, if you want to get on the bus with the guy I posted go right ahead. Maybe you can stand up at their funeral and tell everyone how evil they were.

I'll stick with Jesus on this and continue to associate with those others consider "evil", "sinners" and the like. Especially if they're family. Personally, I see no value in cutting off my remaining family members that I don't agree with on politics. It just seems like a way to convince myself of my superiority.

FYI, this whole "individual voters are directly responsible for every bad thing that happens during the term of the president they voted for" thing. Does that apply to all presidential administrations?