I've written extensively about the seemingly endless fraud in the people's republic, and how the vast majority of that fraud is concentrated in one immigrant community. As we see in myriads of public statements, the Somali community in MN thinks of themselves as citizens of Somalis first, Muslims second, and residents of MN third (at best). They've brought tribal conflict that's shown up in how they vote, and an aptitude for fraud that is impressive from Somalia. They worship Ilhan Omar who's family was part of the oppressive regime and who's father was (by most standards) a war criminal. We've seen a massive amount of immigration fraud, on top of the outright theft of hundreds of millions of dollars. Some of which is reported to be supporting Muslim terror groups. You could argue that you can't blame the entire group for the actions of the few, and that is usually True. However when the scope of the autism fraud was revealed, and the high rate of participation, the 50% rate of immigration fraud, and the total inability to police their community, I think it's fair to say that it's not just a few troublemakers.
Strangely enough, the Twin Cities is also home to another large group of immigrants that get less publicity. Sure, we hear about Suni Lee and the kid who was in Gran Torino, but that's about it. Of course I'm talking about the Hmong (and to a lesser extent the Karen). One might ask why we don't hear the same sorts of things about this community as we do about the Somali community. I believe that there are two relatively simple answers. One, gratitude. The Hmong were (as a community) grateful to have been removed from SE Asia and their situation there and have shown that gratitude. Two, assimilation. They have done an excellent job of assimilating into the community, without sacrificing their cultural identity. You could probably find some answers in the differences between Asian and African cultures as well.
In short, I'd argue that to compare and contrast the experiences of the Hmong and Somali immigrants who ended up in the people's republic would make an interesting case study. Unfortunately, it seems unlikely that it'll ever be done because of the potential to open various cans of worms. It seems safe to conclude that immigrants who have no desire or intent to assimilate are not immigrants that bring value to the countries they immigrate to.
https://www.wilder.org/wp-content/pdf-file/SFO_PopulationAtGlance_AllPopulationss_6-16.pdf
I decided to take a look, and found this. It's interesting that Somalis have the highest poverty rate and one of the lowest working rates. This is interesting data, but it would be interesting to do a deeper dive. Especially to look at things like country loyalty and intent/desire to assimilate.
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One could make the case that we have already all the evidence we need with regard to limiting entry from specific nations.
One could make that case.
Notice how Danny boy doesn't comment on posts like this? It's almost like he knows that reality is against him, and that his support for this corruption can't be covered over, so he simply sticks with his silent support for this garbage.
He would too easily be indicted as complicit by his ongoing support for the parties involved.
Hell, he revels in the policies implemented by the DFL and lax oversight by the DFL which have led to these egregious frauds. You'll note that he wants to force successful businessmen to sell their companies and those with investments to get rid of them to serve on elected office, but not a word about this blatant, ongoing fraud.
Craig:
The Hmong were (as a community) grateful to have been removed from SE Asia and their situation there and have shown that gratitude. Two, assimilation. They have done an excellent job of assimilating into the community, without sacrificing their cultural identity.
What's your source for this claim? Or is it just your opinion?
Notice how Danny boy doesn't comment on posts like this?
Sigh. I don't comment on everything. Nor do you. And in this case, I'm just not familiar with all the data. Believe it or not, I'm not following Minnesota politics. I simply don't comment on topics I'm not familiar with. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. That people don't comment on everything is just a function of being finite humans.
I'd LOVE for you to start commenting on the abuse of power in the maga-gop world, but you remain silent.
Do I have some magical "definitive" source that speaks authoritatively for an entire community, no. Do I have extensive experience working with and around members of that community and am I able to observe how they have assimilated, yes. It's an informed opinion based on experience and observation.
No, you don't comment on everything. I was noting the reality that there is a pattern to the types of posts you choose to comment on and those you don't.
Your excuse is interesting because it ignores the reality that the topic of the post was ASSIMILATION of immigrants into US culture and society. That I used examples with which I am familiar is really beside the point. I guess it's possible that you are ignorant of what's happening in various suburbs of Detroit, and how the Muslim immigrants have chosen not to assimilate. I guess it's also possible that you're ignorant of the multiple, massive, (and growing) cases of fraud focused primarily in immigrant communities, the tribal infighting that affected recent elections, and the multiple examples of immigrant elected officials openly acknowledging that they prioritize their country of origin over the country they were elected to serve.
As you've made it clear that I will not have the same freedom to comment on your blog, that I allow you on mine, and that I am less than fully welcome to comment on your blog I will not be commenting on your vague and unproven accusations there. I'll also note that I spend much more time commenting negatively on the Trump administration than you do or have on any DFL elected official, administration, or policy.
I'll finally point out the reality that the person you voted for as VP has presided over the largest examples of government fraud in recent years, and has turned an 18 billion dollar surplus into a 10 billion dollar deficit in a period of two years. I'd have thought that someone as well informed and reasonable as you claim to be would have given more thought to who he was supporting for a presidential ticket.
I'd also think that someone who worships "DATA" as much as you do would not be so ignorant of the "DATA" as it pertains to Somali immigrants in the US and Europe.
Ha ha... I appreciate the huge vote of confidence that you think I'm so incredibly all-knowing. It's flattering, really. But, no. I'm not well-versed on Somali emigre data even in my Louisville, much less, in every US and European state and city!
Fyi, some data I AM familiar with shows that in the US, immigrants from all/most nations have very similar trajectories. The first generation is more connected to their own people and homelands, with second and third generations becoming progressively more integrated. I've seen nothing to suggest Somalis are outliers.
Fyi
Interesting (strange) that you consider high regard for data in making decisions, "worshipping data..." You DON'T value data in making policy decisions?
That would explain a lot about maga and your connection to it/them.
That you take so much pride in your ignorance is strange.
Those like Dan pervert data all the time to further their agenda. Dan's especially good at it. Look what he just did: he pretends the "data" he references is guaranteed for every demographic, that all people act the same way and thus, when islamists devoted to their false god come here and procreate, they will not pass down their lies to their kids to the detriment of our nation, very much as has those like Dan who passed down lies to his, who will (unless they've learned to actually think for themselves) continue the process. With regard to immigrants (legal migrants to our country), if there is no desire to assimilate, how the subsequent generations regard this country is not likely to mirror the offspring of those who did intend to assimilate upon their arrival. This is what logic looks like, and we see signs of this in the heavily cloistered communities of muslims in places like Dearborn, MI.
That you've managed to ignore a national story about the billion dollar plus fraud/immigration fraud/CDL fraud in MN and the DFL involvement is truly impressive.
Take a look at the "DATA" about African/Pakistani/Muslim immigrants in Europe, paying special attention to the crime/rape numbers and the cousin marriage numbers.
No, I consider what you do to be worshiping DATA, especially given how selective your worship of DATA is. You managing to ignore months of DATA on my blog alone about the massive DFL/Somali fraud and the Walz/Ellison embrace of those who were defrauding the US taxpayer and stealing from "the poor", demonstrates why my sarcasm about your selective worship of DATA is appropriate.
Craig:
You managing to ignore months of DATA on my blog alone
I'm sorry, but you are not a credible source. So... you'll have to get over that.
Nothing personal, I just don't trust you or your sources. Or maybe that is personal, but not being trusted is a consequence of how you write, reason and respond to actual data.
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