https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/utah-student-furry-protest/
For those unfamiliar with the term, A Furry is a human being who identifies as a different kind of mammal. This clearly takes the "trans" thing to a whole new level.
In UT students at a middle school protested because the "furries" in their school were taking things a bit too far. With reports of biting, scratching, and otherwise acting like animals being reported. Given the fact that it would be a clear violation of the dress code, I can't believe this is actually happening, yet our schools are full of crazy stuff on a daily basis.
Maybe, just maybe, we should dial back on using schools to allow children free reign to live out their fantasies, and spend more time educating students.
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From the article you cited:
“I really like the idea of animals that walk and talk, so I’m going to dress up as one, as kind of a fun sort of cosplay thing,” Strudel said.
1. Furries don't think they're animals. It's a cosplay thing.
Your claim is false.
"“A lot of the information that’s been put out there is completely incorrect and inaccurate,” Nebo School District Public Information Officer Seth Sorensen told ABC4.com.
While Sorensen said there have been issues with harassment or students making others feel uncomfortable or unsafe, he said most of the claims online are false...
Sorensen said students are not dressing up as cats and dogs, and because there is a dress code in place, he doesn’t think videos that have been shared online are from Nebo schools. Sorensen emphasized that the main goals of the district are open communication and student safety.
“Today, we had some students and parents choose to exercise their right to assemble, and do a little protest for what they perceived was something that was happening in the school,” Sorensen said. “It actually is not something that’s been occurring.”
He said the reports of students dressing as animals are “a little bit inaccurate,” saying students wearing headbands with ears are similar to students wearing bows and sports jerseys. Sorensen said dressing up is “just what students of this age do.”"
2. What? People aren't really doing what some students are complaining about and what some gullible people are buying into?
Oh no! Gullible people exist! Or, if you object to noting people like you are gullible, how about "useful idiot..."? Anything to try to fearmonger, whether it's true or reality or not.
Another potential headline on the story:
"Some students are wearing cat ear headbands and being silly. Other students exaggerate what's happening and fear for their safety over what appears to be absolutely nothing."
Move on. There's nothing here.
In UT students at a middle school protested because the "furries" in their school were taking things a bit too far. With reports of biting, scratching, and otherwise acting like animals being reported.
Your source also noted that very "animal-like" behavior of "spraying air freshener on others..." ANIMALS! Man, it's good that you've alerted the world to this actual, real world problem of things we should be worried about because children are becoming animals and actually thinking their animals. We know this because Craig appears to believe a silly little report with no evidence or, you know, data and stuff.
I mean, given that these alleged "furries" have actually been biting and scratching people, all we need to do is look to the police reports that were filed after these assaults, and view the bite wounds and stuff.
What? There's no police report? No bite wounds?
Wow, they're also MAGICAL furry kids who can bite without leaving wounds. Do you suspect something like a vampire, Craig? Or maybe some kind of animalistic zombie?
[rolls eyes]
PT Barnum and other con artists were right... there's a sucker born every minute.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2024/04/17/fact-check-nebo-school-district/
Listen to the people/parents/students who are complaining about the "furries..." They SOUND idiotic and as if they're just spreading unsupported gossip and rumors with NOT ONE LICK (sorry, don't want to offend someone fearful of getting licked by a furry) - ONE BIT of hard data! "I heard that somebody even got bit!" "Dressing like animals..."
https://www.wfla.com/video/students-walk-out-of-utah-middle-school-to-protest-%e2%80%98furries%e2%80%99/9616517/
Honestly, you can't be this poor a judge of understanding news and reality, are you? IF someone is presenting something that sounds silly and stupid as if it were a real problem AND there is no data for it, then the odds are, it's fake news, gossip, rumors with nothing behind it.
Seriously, think about it. Do you think there are actually middle school students regularly attending their middle school dressed AS AN ANIMAL and that they're BITING people? How gullible are you? This is an inane waste of words and time. Don't be a useful idiot.
Other myths for you to worry about, if you want:
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N31J1KT/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter_boxes_in_schools_hoax
"1. Furries don't think they're animals. It's a cosplay thing."
According to the article, ONE "furry" claims it's a "cosplay thing". Unless this "furry" somehow speaks for all "furries", it's hard to accept your leap.
"Your claim is false."
No.
"2. What? People aren't really doing what some students are complaining about and what some gullible people are buying into?"
What, a school administrator downplaying what may or may not be going on it his school??????? Noooooo, this never happens. (Well other than that whole rape thing in VA) I'd also note that he's not saying that nothing happened, but that what did happen was exaggerated.
Isn't that the purpose of journalism and the school system? To find out what actually happened?
"Oh no! Gullible people exist! Or, if you object to noting people like you are gullible, how about "useful idiot..."? Anything to try to fearmonger, whether it's true or reality or not."
Sure they do, and it seems like the proper response is to find out what really happened, not to assume that nothing happened becasue you think "furries" are wonderful.
Dan,
Given that the point of the post was that schools should probably focus on education, and the clear note that these things were "reported" (as opposed to being True), it's almost like you're the gullible one.
"Given that the point of the post was that schools should probably focus on education..."
Indeed. Schools SHOULD focus on education, not nonsense claims about "furries," and parents and outsiders should not push gossip and rumors. Educators know this is counter to educational efforts.
As to "furries..." I'm not one who follows relatively silly, harmless trends like this, but I'm at least casually aware that people dressing in animal outfits exist. But educated people note this and think, "huh. Some people like to dress like animals for fun..." and move on. We don't assume there's something nefarious afoot. Just like with the pet rock trend from long ago. We don't assume that people think rocks are living pets like a dog... it's just a harmless trend. And educated people move on, leaving it at that.
Move on.
Dan
"Indeed. Schools SHOULD focus on education, not nonsense claims about "furries," and parents and outsiders should not push gossip and rumors. Educators know this is counter to educational efforts."
You are right that parents and students should just shut up about things happening in their schools and not avail themsleves of their 1st amendment rights. Especially when it's more conservative parents in more conservative states and school districts.
"As to "furries..." I'm not one who follows relatively silly, harmless trends like this, but I'm at least casually aware that people dressing in animal outfits exist."
As do people who have permanently modified their bodies to be more animal like.
"But educated people note this and think, "huh. Some people like to dress like animals for fun..." and move on. We don't assume there's something nefarious afoot."
As long as their fun delusion doesn't affect others. As long as they don't expect or demand that others humor their fantasies. That might be an argument. Of course, I'm not assuming anything nefarious, I'm just watching the culture.
"Just like with the pet rock trend from long ago. We don't assume that people think rocks are living pets like a dog... it's just a harmless trend. And educated people move on, leaving it at that."
If you say so. Perhaps, your problem is that you are not educated enough on this subculture. Perhaps your problem is that you dismiss it as only a few people engaging in cosplay and that you might be ignorant on the subject. This isn't an invitation for you to flood this thread with cherry picked "news" that agrees with you. It's more of an encouragement not to make these sorts of generalizations before you know what you're talking about.
"Move on."
Strangely enough, I was done, you keep commenting. Maybe you should move on.
In all seriousness, if biology is not determinative, what could possibly be wrong with someone deciding that they are actually a dog?
You are free to answer that or not, but otherwise I respectfully suggest that further comments on this thread will not be of value.
You are right that parents and students should just shut up about things happening in their schools and not avail themsleves of their 1st amendment rights.
You are making a presumption that what a few people are alleging they heard happened to a friend of theirs according to their cousin... maybe... ARE the "things happening in their schools..." even though it sounds ridiculous on the face of it and there is no support for the claims.
Being a person who understands how to read for understanding and how not to be taken in by fake news or gossip or vague innuendo, I make no such presumption.
Once again: If a story being alleged with no support sounds ridiculous and unlikely on the face of it, there's a good chance that it's a non-story. That it's just empty gossip.
But believe crazy conspiracy theories even if they have no support. That's sort of the modus operandi of modern "conservatism." Gullible Idiocy for Useful Idiots.
Sad.
"You are making a presumption that what a few people are alleging they heard happened to a friend of theirs according to their cousin... maybe... ARE the "things happening in their schools..." even though it sounds ridiculous on the face of it and there is no support for the claims."
Just like you are making a presumption that nothing happened, and that all "furries" behave in certain ways. In your accusation, you miss my point. Parents and students have the right to protest. They have the right to speak out. Even if they are mistaken.
"Being a person who understands how to read for understanding and how not to be taken in by fake news or gossip or vague innuendo, I make no such presumption."
If you know how to read to understand, why are you so bad at it?
"Once again: If a story being alleged with no support sounds ridiculous and unlikely on the face of it, there's a good chance that it's a non-story. That it's just empty gossip."
You mean like the Trump/Russia story? You always have an excuse when you need to disbelieve a news story. It's always something that doesn't meet your high standards. As I noted, the story was reported. It's possible that additional information will change the story, but the story as it was reported is what it is.
"But believe crazy conspiracy theories even if they have no support. That's sort of the modus operandi of modern "conservatism." Gullible Idiocy for Useful Idiots."
From someone who believes every single discredited conspiracy theory about Trump and who still believes all the COVID propaganda, this is rich.
"Sad."
It is sad when you believe bullshit that fits your narrative, while adopting this superior attitude when others simply comment on what's being reported.
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