“Woke Left: "We need to amplify Black voices!" ✊🏾
Black Conservatives/Libertarians:
"Great! OK, well what I think is..."
Woke Left: "STFU you coon a** Uncle Tom house n*gga. You are a disgrace to your race and are repeating white supremacist talking points! Educate yourself"”
Zuby
I know this doesn’t sound like anyone we know.
“This mf really on Twitter acting like Cj Pearson is forgiven bc he gathered $160k for black businesses but he uses his platform to go against black people????? The same mf who say blue lives matter?????? Y’all are fucking MENTAL PATIENTS. f Tomi Lahren woke up tomorrow and donated $160,000 dollars to black lives matter organizations y’all coons gone jump on her train??” Your money is appreciated but it’s still a big FUCK YOU from me bc you can NEVER come back from saying some stupid shit like blue lives matter.”
A woman named Jas. Apparently he’s annoyed because CJ Pearson doesn’t meet his criteria as an official black person. Because she says “I be saying all type of shit”. I’ll give her that she’s saying shit.
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And do you have any idea why people like Jas might be annoyed? Have you asked?
Let’s analyze this. CJ Pearson, a recent HS graduate, decided to raise money for the victims of the recent rioting. He raised $160,000 which he distributed to various businesses owners.
Perhaps you could explain why a rational person would get angry enough about an act of charity to refer to another black person in those terms?
Or we could look at the evidence and conclude that black liberals are incredibly hateful and intolerant of black conservatives.
You pick, neither reason seems good enough for this sort of public attack. Ultimately it doesn’t matter, you’ll come up with some bullshit excuse that excuses and justifies this sort of vitriolic attacking because of political differences. If you and the multitude of black folks on social media, are any examples you think these sorts of attacks are appropriate.
FYI, this treatment of black conservatives is significant enough that a black voice just released a documentary about it.
You pick, neither reason seems good enough for this sort of public attack. Ultimately it doesn’t matter, you’ll come up with some bullshit excuse that excuses and justifies this sort of vitriolic attacking
What I literally did was literally ask a reasonable question. One you've ignored.
Do you have any idea why people like Jas might be annoyed? Yes? No?
Have you asked people like Jas about this?
Sure people have the right to be annoyed, what am idiotic question.
The better question is whether or not his attack on Pearson is rational and reasonable.
Everyone has the right to be annoyed, but if the response is irrational, public, and disproportionate, it’s reasonable to comment on.
The minute I see someone irrationally annoyed about someone helping victims and not following the herd, I’ll ask.
One can note that you’ve managed to give the appearance of support for this irrational, vitriolic, attack, yet done it in such a way as to give yourself an out.
Again, getting annoyed about “not answering questions”, when you’ve left a string of unanswered questions behind, isn’t a good look.
See, I knew the listen to all black voices was bullshit. It’s more like accept uncritically anything anyone who happens to be black says and assume that they’re always justified no matter whether they say.
I found that Twitter thread. The Jas person appears to be a chick. Not that it matters. What matters is Dan's 1st question was answered by Craig in the last sentence of his post. I can't imagine Jas or anyone like her would provide anything that wouldn't validate Craig's suggestion...especially given Jas clearly explained his/her tweet pretty clearly.
It seems clear, then, he simply meant to attack Craig.
You read, but don't understand.
You read words that say X and you INTERPRET them to mean NOT X.
You read, but don't understand.
I'm sorry for you and your loved ones.
Actually I read and understand. Perhaps the problem is with you.
Are you literally suggesting that Jas isn’t attacking Pearson with words and phrases that would be racist if used by a white person for one of two things? Either raising and donating $160k or because he doesn’t have the same political views as Jas.
But, it’s so much easier to respond with meaningless bullshit than to do things like answer questions.
I'm not suggesting anything about Jas's words because I don't know Jas. What I ASKED was, did YOU KNOW why he had a problem with Pearson's words? HAVE YOU LISTENED to the reasoning Jas has for his positions?
It's a reasonable question and it is still unanswered.
Perhaps because we know the answer, don't we? You don't know Jas' reasoning because you haven't asked him or people like him because you DON'T listen - truly listen for understanding - to all black voices. You listen to attack and demean and, where you can find it, find black people who agree with your pre-formed opinions.
But do you know why Jas says what he says?
No.
You read but don't understand. You read me encouraging you to listen to ALL black voices and conclude I mean only listen to black voices who agree with me, when that's the opposite of what I've said and meant.
You read, but don't understand.
Of course you’re not suggesting anything, because if you take the rational position, you’re stuck being critical of a black voice. Or you can continue down this course and ignore the plain meaning of the words being used.
Part of your problem is that you’re ignoring the indisputable fact that black conservatives are routinely treated in the most vile manner. They’re routinely referred to with “racist” terms and disparaged. So, part of your problem is that you lack context. Whether it’s because you blind yourself or because you believe black conservatives should be treated like shit by liberals.
So, yes it’s pretty obvious that Jas simply hates black conservatives and isn’t hesitant to demean them.
Once again, you simply ignore the actions on your side, both by your silence on anti Semitism as well as your excuses for people like Jas.
Your all black voices demand would make more sense if it wasn’t one more example of your double standards.
At this point, you appear to be suggesting is that it’s impossible to reach any conclusions about Jas and her motivation by simply reading her words. Based on her public statements it’s reasonable to conclude that it’s simply a hatred on conservative black people.
I’ll tell you one thing it’s safe to say about both Jas and you. That there is a pattern of saying something provocative or inflammatory then disappearing. There are multiple questions (ones that I’d ask), which are ignored. Multiple black people disagreeing with her, and no response from her.
Dan's is a cheap ploy. It's pretty straightforward. Jas is jazzed up over CJ Pearson honoring cops. I don't know why Dan thinks there's something cryptic in hate directed at Pearson for this imagined transgression. What possible alternative is exists based on an objective reading of that tweet? Dan's known for pretending the obvious doesn't mean what's inconvenient for Dan to have it mean. This tactic allows Dan flexibility in altering the meaning of his own words and the meaning of the words of others where it serves him to do so. In this case, he expects that one ignores the plain meaning of Jas' words so as to deflect attention from the clear hatefulness expressed therein.
Craig... yes it’s pretty obvious that Jas simply hates black conservatives and isn’t hesitant to demean them.
That's IT? THAT is your take-away.
And how is it "obvious" to you that Jas hates black conservatives? Is there any reasoning behind it? What is that reasoning? Do you know? Have you ASKED people like Jas?
HAVE YOU LISTENED to the reasoning Jas has for his positions?
Do you have any idea why people like Jas might be annoyed? Have you asked?
Or is it safer for you to just randomly assign your best guess to his motives and you don't really need to listen to his black voice that way?
What have I said that is provocative? Asking you if you've asked people like Jas what their reasoning is?
Wow. Provocative. Yes, I see how, coming from the modern conservative movement as you do, the idea of actually seeking out reasons and listening to the voices with whom you think you disagree IS provocative.
But in the normal adult world, not so much.
Craig... "part of your problem is that you lack context"
Irony. And you don't even understand why.
"That's IT? THAT is your take-away."
Yes, when I read her words and apply standard English language conventions, It seems reasonable to conclude that she "hates" (doesn't like, is annoyed with, pick your adjective...) black conservatives in general and Pearson in particular. Her Pearson hatred might be related to his decision to attend UA in the fall.
"And how is it "obvious" to you that Jas hates black conservatives?"
Well, by reading her words and applying standard English language conventions and definitions to the words she uses. "Hate" might be too strong, so pick any other relatively synonymous adjectives if it helps.
"Is there any reasoning behind it?"
I can't imagine that the sort of animus and racial slurs we see aimed at black conservatives come from a place of deep reasoning, but it's p[possible.
"What is that reasoning?" I have no idea what their "reasoning" is.
"Do you know?" I suspect, but wouldn't say know.
"Have you ASKED people like Jas?" Yup, never gotten a good answer.
"Irony. And you don't even understand why."
Actually you're kind of right, just backwards.
The point of this post, and others, is to illustrate the kind of attacks directed at black conservatives from black liberals. The fact that you haven't, and won't condemn this sort of hateful, racist, vitriolic, exclusionary language (just like you didn't have a problem with Biden as the arbiter of who's "black"), is simply loaded with irony that you apparently blind yourself to.
It's this sort of bullshit, which confirms my suspicion that you don't really follow your own demands ("Listen to ALL black voices") or that you're just content to live with the double standard.
I know you stopped answering questions multiple threads ago, but I'll take a chance.
Can you come up with any plausible reason why raising $160,000 for the small business owners victimized by rioters can be seen as anything but laudable?
Can you come up with any scenario that it's appropriate to refer to someone in racially charged terms simply due to a political disagreement?
HAVE YOU LISTENED to the reasoning Jas has for his positions?
"HAVE YOU LISTENED to the reasoning Jas has for his positions?"
I've searched extensively for her answers to people asking virtually the same questions that I would ask. Her response, has been (much like other liberals) silence. Now, given your penchant for trying to assign meaning to the silence of others, it seems reasonable that certain conclusions can be drawn from her silence.
"Do you have any idea why people like Jas might be annoyed?"
Yes.
"Have you asked?" Yes, and I've seen others ask the questions I'd ask. So it seems redundant and pointless for me to ask the same questions that others have asked and that have been answered with silence.
"Or is it safer for you to just randomly assign your best guess to his motives and you don't really need to listen to his black voice that way?"
Well, you do it so often that it must be acceptable. However, since the demonizing pf black conservatives by black liberals is an incredibly common occurrence (I've posted multiple examples, and there's even a recent documentary about it), I think it's reasonable to conclude that one more black liberal attacking Pearson with racially loaded terms fits the larger pattern. You see, when you hide from what folks on your side of things are doing, you lack the context that these things fit into.
"What have I said that is provocative?"
In this thread, nothing especially provocative, in past threads plenty.
"Asking you if you've asked people like Jas what their reasoning is?"
That's not provocative, it's just you letting your prejudices have free reign.
"Sometimes it's hypocritical-it's almost as if SOME black lives matter. But ALL black lives should matter and ALL lives should matter. So, I thank you Mr President for what you're doing and I stand in solidarity with you."
Dan, is the above quote "racist"? Should the person who said it be referred to in vitriolic, derogatory terms? Should they receive negative consequences?
For Jas to melt down over Pearson's support for cops is pretty clear. Dan's side of the equation believes in the myth of rampant black person hunting by cops and other alleged racists, while at the same time ignoring the disproportionate (and well documented) black on white crime rate.
But rather than question what we've done, said or believe, Dan might want to provide actual proof that any of it is wrong, or any proof that supports what he expects we should be doing, saying or believing about those black voices of whom he needs to believe we've never listened.
I won't hold my breath.
“Ima keep it real alota u niggas is racist”
Same questions as in the comment above.
“Nick Cannon says white people are "a little less," "closer to animals," "the true savages," "acting out of a deficiency so the only way they can act is evil."
What an intelligent and well reasoned black voice.
“Yikes... Nick Cannon has gone full black supremacist.
This is 100% certified racist. 🤦🏿♂️”
Zuby
BVMLTT
The thing is: UNTIL you can condemn the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES - a world leader who is responsible for actual policy and who was put in place by conservative white evangelicals - for his decades of racist behavior and words, no one will give a damn about what you might say about entertainers who are people of color.
UNTIL you recognize the entirely different context between an entertainer and a president and between the real history of oppression of black people versus the privileged life of white people, no one will give a damn about what you might say about black entertainers.
UNTIL that happens, you're just another in the endless line of white racists complaining about "those black people."
Now, you will complain that I'm not talking about this guy who I don't know a thing about but in so doing, you will have missed the point. Entirely.
The point being: You are from a racist tradition using the words and methods of attack of centuries of racists pretending to be concerned about racism but clearly not, given stone-white silence on Trump's racism.
You see, no one cares what hypocrites say, because you've already made it clear that you don't care about racism UNLESS perhaps it's what you consider racism coming from black people. Thus, it's not racism you care about, but defense of racists.
And you won't understand that, either, but there it is, nonetheless.
So, you refuse to answer simple reasonable questions.
Of course, you ignore my repeated criticism of Trump and act as if it hasn’t happened. Your idiotic construct that essentially ignores any other examples of racism unless people jump through your hoops, is quite the impressive attempt to avoid and silently approve of racism on your side.
But great job dodging questions.
As I’ve repeatedly pointed out, the problem isn’t my not understanding, I’ve seen way to many black conservatives excoriated by folks like you to pretend that this doesn’t happen and that they can excuse all sorts of vileness.
The accusation that Trump is a racist has yet to be proven. No examples have been brought forth that haven't been debunked as anti-Trump, pathetic attempts...nothing more. Dan continues to speak as if he has such proof, but fails to provide it...you know...hard data. Dan is a liar.
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