It's one thing to co opt Jesus in an attempt to give your political activism a veneer of legitimacy, but to do so with such incredibly bad theology is a bridge too far.
I know the person who posted this idiocy very well, and know that they are not ignorant when it comes to studying Scripture. Yet, they posted this without thinking much, or at all, about it's accuracy.
Even a cursory glance at the Passion narratives makes it clear that Jesus willingly submitted to both the Jewish and Roman authorities. From His prayer in the garden, to his healing of the servant's ear, and His admonition to Peter against fighting, Jesus complied the entire way. While Jesus' message was totally counter to both the Jewish and Roman worldviews, He was never the social and political revolutionary that progressive christians and the ASPL pretend He was.
In short, Jesus was the picture of compliance to the authorities.
Until He rose from the dead.
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You read, but fail to understand.
Think about it:
Do you think Jesus complied with the Pharisees who wanted him to join in and stone the "adulterous woman" to death?
Of course, he didn't.
Do you think Jesus complied with the Pharisees and teachers of the law who wanted him to stop harvesting on the Sabbath or healing the poor on theSabbath?
Of course, he didn't.
Do you think Jesus complied with the Pharisees who wanted him to treat the poor and marginalized as unclean and Outside?
Of course, he didn't.
Do you think Jesus complied with the rulers and wealthy who wanted Jesus to treat the corrupt business people stealing from the poor in the temple as Good and acceptable? As opposed to tossing over their business tables and chasing them and their booty out of the temple?
Of course, he didn't.
You almost certainly agree that Jesus did not comply with the corrupt oppressors.
Right?
Maybe you're looking for disagreement where none exists?
Well, He didn't comply with the sinful desires of others, as He encouraged them to "go and sin no more". Could that be the point?
"From His prayer in the garden, to his healing of the servant's ear, and His admonition to Peter against fighting, Jesus complied the entire way."
What a demasculated, small little pathetic Jesus you imagine.
The problem seems to be that you all fail to grasp the fierce, powerful peaceful resistance and power of people like MLK and Jesus Christ, our Overcomer.
It’s clearly you who doesn’t read, nor understand.
Jesus wasn’t the rabble rousing, leftist protester that progressive christians want Him to be. The He complied in the events that lead to His death, doesn’t mean that He complied in every situation He was in.
That is True. He did comply with His Father’s plans though.
Not at all. But if making up bullshit makes you feel better, that’s cute.
Well, as we know well, Dan follows a Jesus of his own making who bears only a superficial resemblance to the Jesus of Scripture.
The actual Jesus of Scripture complied with the Will of His Heavenly Father in all things.
Including complying with the Roman government when He was arrested, tried, and killed. Dan’s version of Jesus didn’t come to die on a cross, but was a failed political agitator for 21st century liberal policies.
So far I haven’t seen Dan condemn the invasion of a church and the integral participation of a “journalist” in the invasion. Of course he’d freak out if protesters invaded a mosque and disrupted a service.
How come Craig's posts are becoming "Anonymous?"
I'll condemn a church "invasion" when you condemn Jesus' driving out HIS corrupt people out of HIS synagogue.
God's house* shall be a house of worship, not a haven for oppressors.
And don't be so literalist as to confuse God's house with a religious building.
I'll condemn this protest at a religious site providing haven for an oppressor when you condemn Trump's ongoing threats at a takeover of a free and independent nation that IS NOT TRUMP'S to take!
What in the name of all that is holy is happening to the true believers in the Felon's cult?
Look at your language:
" the invasion of a church"
"Invasion..."? They were peacefully protesting at a place providing "sanctuary" for an oppressor. A point on which they might reasonably be arrested, but let's not confuse peaceful civil disobedience with words like "attacks" and "invasion."
Your pervert princeling is the one invading US states, abducting innocent people, abusing innocent people and killing innocent people. Your felon is the one talking about an actual invasion against a free people because he didn't get his little peace prize and it hurt his malignant feelings.
His actions will be the undoing, at least, of the maga cult and possibly the US. The majority of citizens are already outraged at his abuses of decency and power. We will not stand for a military invasion of a free and innocent people.
You're still straining the gnat and swallowing the camel.
Wake up. You're on the wrong side of history, reason and decency.
Because I’m not signing in on my phone when I comment from it.
What an impassioned defense of an invasion of a church service for no reason other than intimidation.
The hubris involved in thinking that you get to define the “right side” of anything, while opposing the removal of drug dealers and sex offenders with extensive rap sheets tells me all about what your side of history is all about.
So, you’ll never confirm a church invasion by your ilk. Gotcha. Who knew you were such a radical.
That your spouting sone made up narrative to excuse the behavior isn’t a surprise.
You making absurd demands about unrelated topics as a way to divert attention from your support of intimidation and threats to the innocent is impressive as always.
ICE operations is no more "oppressive" than any law enforcement operation to identify and arrest law breakers of any kind. Law enforcement is not "oppression", except to criminals and law breakers favored by Dan. A house of worship which, under the leadership of its pastor, supports law enforcement...like ICE...in the fulfillment of their duties is not "providing a haven for oppressors".
Trump is not looking to "take over" any independent nation . In one case he's looking to form a greater alliance with a country not truly supported by the nation which claims it. In another he's dealing with a narco-terrorist regime and the people of that nation love Trump for his efforts in ousting their dictator.
Trump's not a felon, but was clearly and obviously wrongly convicted. Dan knows this, but as an inveterate and committed liar and fake Christian, he is more than willing to ignore the many egregious prosecutorial errors in the trial which resulted in Trump's false conviction in order to rationalize calling him a felon. This is what "embrace grace" truly looks like. It's how fake Christians like Dan operates. He exploits the faith to push his vile and truly anti-Christ ideology.
Indeed. There's nothing of truth anywhere in Dan's comment, because truth is anathema to him.
These miscreants weren't "peacefully protesting". They were willfully and purposely disrupting a religious service to push their lie which Dan now repeats:
That Trump is a pervert. Dan's a pervert beyond any argument.
That Trump regards himself or is regarded by his supporters as some kind of "princeling" or "king".
That Trump is "invading" US states by virtue of the fact federal ICE officers are fulfilling their duty with regard identifying and arresting illegal alien invaders and similar people who are in breach of their obligations as regards just immigration laws and regulations.
That these ICE operations are "abusing innocent people and killing innocent people". (An incredibly vile lie!)
That Trump cares about not getting the Nobel Peace Prize simply because he recognizes his work in brokering peace deals and other efforts of him makes him especially qualified for such a prize which the Nobel Committee...being leftist asshats like Dan...intentionally ignored.
That the "majority of citizens are already outraged at his abuses of decency and power." The majority of citizens voted for Trump in order that he do what is now being done to deport illegals from our country. Thus it's a lie to say he's abusing anything in fulfilling his campaign promise.
That Dan will actually do anything in any way meaningful about his lie regarding "a military invasion of a free and innocent people."
What an abject buffoon!
Any and every example of enforcing laws is “oppressive” to those who’ve broken the law. That the narrative is being manipulated by the “protesters” and the media reinforces this narrative.
For example, bathrobe guy, looked pitiful but was literally harboring 2 sex offenders and was briefly detained to determine whether or not he was complicit. I could be wrong, but it seems like harboring sex offenders is a bad choice. It further seems like sex offenders who are in the country illegally are exactly the people who should be deported. That MPD/SPPD/MPLS/STP are protecting or releasing these sex offenders seems to be the opposite of protecting their citizens.
Trump is looking to do a deal on Greenland that will ultimately benefit both the US and NATO.
Trump is technically a felon until the convictions are overturned. That the only reason he was convicted is so Dan and his ilk can use felon is immaterial.
To some degree or another anyone who sins is a pervert.
That the protesters intentionally chose to disrupt a church service, intimidate the attendees, and terrorize children makes them cowards, not heroes. Which is why Dan is so supportive, as a coward, he identifies with them. That they are supporting criminals, sex offenders, violent felons and drug dealers, just makes Dan like them more. That they’ve got a MSM shill involved in the whole thing undermines Dans love affair with journalists, but he’s too stupid to realize it.
That Trump was convicted by a kangaroo court is a technicality upon which no honest person can rely to justify the constant label of "felon" when referencing this man. But then, we're talking about Dan. While I recognize this crap court convicted him, I'm under no obligation to disparage someone wrongly convicted. Neither is Dan. He just loves having the opportunity because "embrace grace".
I just now saw that story of the "bathrobe guy". The YahooNews article was light on details, but heavy on weeping that this guy was hauled out. Maybe if he just answered the door he'd not have been treated as he was. The article says he claimed to be doing some karaoke singing. But even with headphones on it's difficult to believe he couldn't hear the officers pounding on the door announcing themselves. The article provides video, likely from someone's cell phone, which shows agents using a battering ram to enter the house, but naturally, no video of what preceded that...such as the agents knocking and announcing themselves. Very hard to believe that's not their first move before busting the door.
Most sentient humans understand the nature of Trump's felony conviction. Although some of us wonder why the appeals are taking so long. Yet, as annoying and misleading as it is, Dan is technically correct. This is exactly the reason for the kangaroo court, the twisting of NY law, the manufactured "felonies" and all the rest. The purpose of the whole charade was so that the low information crowd can parrot "Trump is a felon.". Dan's just caught up in behaving like a lemming. You do you, let Dan do Dan. It's not worth constantly arguing about because he won't recognize any of the actual circumstances and he just wants to repeat the mantra.
Apparently bathrobe guy is a friend of the new mayor and she came out with a statement heavy on condemning ICE, but light on condemning this guy for harboring a couple of truly vile human beings.
Danny boy has completely lost it with his lies about Jesus, calling the invaded church "oppressors," and his deep, deep, DEEP TDS!!!
I should address Dan's eisegesis of one out of context snippet of the entire Passion narrative, but there is so little substance to it that I see no reason to. The fact that Dan ignores the explicit claim of Jesus to be YWHW (referring to the Temple "My House" or "My Father's House) as part of what angered the Jewish leaders says much about the limits of his eisegesis. That he thinks that the Jewish leaders represent "the state". By building an eisegetical position based only on a misinterpretation of one snippet of Scripture, is a mistake that many people make. To pretend that the Jewish leaders hadn't been looking for reasons to kill Jesus long before this event, or that their issue with Jesus was His claims to be YHWH (which was a significant part of His cleansing of The Temple), and His forgiving sin, is to ignore the larger narrative. To further pretend that the Roman authorities had any problem with Jesus for any of His actions, is to ignore the text. Pilate allowed Jesus to be killed by the state to appease the complaining Jewish leaders.
Jesus, however, chose to submit to the authorities despite being innocent, to fulfill YHWH's plan.
The "Jesus was a political rebel" narrative positions Jesus as someone who was guilty of crimes against the status quo, while even the centurion who oversaw His crucifixion acknowledged His innocence (as did Pilate).
But let's not let anything get in the way of a good narrative that justifies political violence as following Jesus' example.
Danny boy completely lost it long before this. What Danny boy ignores is that we recently had a left wing ("trans") person shoot up a church in the middle of a service. To ignore the terror that the children caught up in this latest church invasion were subject to is one more example of Dan's heartless approach to harm when it comes to certain people or groups.
Further more, Nakima Levy Pounds (or whatever she calls herself now), clearly lied on national TV and that probably doesn't bother Dan much either.
Now, wait just a cotton - pickin' minute there, Craig. Don't forget that Dan "seriously and prayerfully" studied Scripture! You're not really questioning his vast theological scholarship, are you?
Yes, I am absolutely questioning his "theological scholarship". Primarily because theology doesn't enter into Dan's eisegesis. He's much more interested in using Jesus' earthly ministry (stripped of anything supernatural) as justification for his political, social, self centered, worldview, than in learning what Scripture tells us about YHWH. In short, his demand that YHWH must prove Himself to Dan according to Dan's terms gets in the way of meaningful study. Dan insists that YHWH doesn't directly intervene, which makes me wonder what (or who) he's praying for.
Dan craves justification for political violence or disruption, and he craves it so badly that he'll ignore the parts of this snippet of the NT to justify whatever political action he wants to. Ultimately his justifications are meaningless as he is clearly too much of a coward to get out from behind a screen and put himself at risk.
He absolutely has the ability to put himself on the front lines here in MSP, but he won't. Hell, he could stand up for right in Louisville and support the black gun shop owner who's being harassed by the local ASPL, but he won't do that either. He'll vaguely refer to the wonderful good works that people at his church allegedly do, but that's about it as far as Dan doing anything. I know, he'll try to take credit for his job being an example of him doing "good works" (and it does seem to potentially be a good thing for those he helps), but getting paid to sit in an office isn't really exposing oneself to risk.
Dan talks a good game, but I fear that it's not much more than that.
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