"If you have a neighbor or a loved one who has joined ICE, it's time to either get them out or turn them in.
Let's put names to these masked oppressors. Law Enforcement Officers (unless they're undercover) can NOT be anonymous.
If you're anonymous, you're not part of defending our communities. You're a part of a secret police force working for the bad guys."
Well, this sounds like a call for vigilantes to step up and take matters into their own hands.
It also sounds like someone who isn't paying attention the the masked "protesters" all over the news, nor to the ANTIFA types, or who only wants to hold one side accountable.
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Craig...
Well, this sounds like a call for vigilantes to step up and take matters into their own hands.
1. Well, it's literally NOT that.
2. It's literally a recognition that, IF we remain a free Republic with actual law, there will come a time when the current Felon is gone and no longer be around to protect or pardon the oppressors in ICE and many ICE "enforcers" will be outed and held accountable by courts of law, just like "only following orders" Nazis were held accountable. IF you care about ICE enforcers, get them out while there's time. And if not, IDENTIFY them. Free nations don't have secret police squads with hidden identities.
3. This is part of the problem with being so siloed in groups that think your way. For oppressors and abusers and vigilante types, you might assume identifying people is for the abusing the secret police. For advocates of peace, justice and a free Republic, the point is to hold people accountable in courts of law.
What happened to law and order, Don't Tread on Me types of conservatives who would be appalled by such a secret police state?
1. Well, if you claim that calling for people to doxx federal law enforcement and to disassociate from family members just because of their jobs, isn't calling for people to be vigilantes... Because we have no idea of what would possibly happen if people like you doxx those in federal law enforcement, do we?
2. That's quite a conspiracy theory based on some wild and random supposition. But I appreciate you attempting to equate federal law enforcement with NAZIs, It'll be helpful when some of the peace loving folx on your side kill a few of them because people like you set the tone.
3. Coming from someone who is who is so siloed that nothing contrary to your narrative gets in, this is hilarious. Strangely enough, I'm right here, and I have lots of interaction with people on both sides of this issue. The problem with your call for vigilantism is that for people to be "held accountable in a court of law" they have to have committed a crime, AND sometimes being "held accountable" means that they get acquitted.
As there is no "secret police state", I simply refuse to join your delusional conspiracy theories.
The problem with you (now) appealing to "law and order" is that your side has been ignoring it for so long and pretending that the trail of victims of your party's policies doesn't exist.
I am all for charging and prosecuting law enforcement for climes they commit, I'm also for not allowing people with multiple felonies be set free even with an ICE detainer. I'm also for holding people responsible for their own individual actions.
But if your little insurrectionist, vigilante, ass needs to feel good about yourself through whiny FB posts go right ahead.
It's not like you'll show up here to act on what you demand that other's do.
It's vitally important to remember that Dan is an abject moron or dedicate liar for the cause of marxism and perversion. Only such would continually choose to label a clearly wrongly convicted man as a "felon" as if the purpose of his trial wasn't to achieve at least that ability. Thus, while technically convicted, Trump is factually not guilty of any felony at all and thus, to constantly call him a felon is slander and Dan is thus a slanderer. He doesn't get a pass to slander justbecause a kangaroo court falsely convicted Trump.
ICE is not an "oppressive" department by doing their lawful duty any more than any other law enforcement department. But terms like "insurrectionist", "anarchist", "criminals", and the like are accurate in their application to those like Dan who pretend ICE is doing something unethical, illegal or contrary to the Constitution just because those like Dan care more for illegal invaders than his own fellow citizens.
ICE is not "anonymous". They're uniforms are clearly marked as "ICE" and no one needs any further specifics about those wearing those uniforms after threatening those officers and their families simply because they were doing their righteous jobs of arresting illegals and deporting them. Thugs like Dan have no business doing such or recommending others harass them at all times, and they certainly have justification, morally or legally, to do so.
The methods now being employed by ICE in blue states and cities were provoked by those running those states and cities as well as by the criminal antics of those like Dan, who unlike Dan, got out there and got in the way. And if people like Dan die because they were stupid enough to obstruct justice while justice was being served upon illegal aliens, their blood is on their own heads, not on ICE or Trump. FAFO.
I'm not going to bother going through Dan's Blog of Lies and Perversion Archives, but I've no doubt he never did a single post criticizing empty suit Obama for deporting illegals using the same Tom Homan now in Trump's employ. Thus, we once again see that those like Dan don't give a flying rat's ass about illegal aliens, law enforcement, women being raped and murdered, morons dying while obstructing justice. No. It's about his embrace grace hatred of Donald Trump, and how lefties cause problems and them blame others for the consequences.
It's even more important to remember that Dan is almost completely talk and almost zero action. That the likelihood of Dan going outside of his little, liberal, silo in the small(ish) metro of Louisville is very small. So this is someone who talks a good game, but isn't going to risk himself to get in the game.
That Dan is unaware (by choice) of the fact that ICE unobtrusively does it's job in jurisdictions across the country without any of the shenanigans we see in MSP, undercuts Dan's premise would be a problem to most. But not Dan. The fact that Jacob Frey continues to insist that MPD will not turn violent felons over to ICE in the controlled, safe, way everyone else does is ignored. (Ditto for the urban core counties/cities) The fact that ICE is enforcing the same laws, using the same tools and procedures, and the same justification that led them to deport millions under Clinton and P-BO (with @50 more shootings during P-BO alone), is also lost on Dan. The hold of the narrative is powerful.
As you note ICE is always identified as ICE on their clothing/vests, so that is one lie dealt with. As for "masks", 1. It's freaking cold outside, 2. We've seen what happens when the ASPL gets information about one of the "NAZIs" (accurate or not), and it is completely reasonable to want to protect family members from danger. 3. The "protesters" are also wearing masks. Do they deserve some greater level of secrecy beyond ICE agents?
Again, if MSP and Hennepin/Ramsey counties would simply play by the rules that the rest of MN plays by (Including the state of MN) we would not be seeing these tactics being necessary. It's really that simple. We have (basically) 4 governmental units who refuse to be part of the solution, and are therefore part of the problem.
I suspect, if pressed, that Dan will do his usual move where he claims to have abhorred P-BO and Clinton's combined 16 years mass deportations and the endless series of video clips from every major DFL leader (including Barry Sanders) literally agreeing with Trump's current policies. The simple fact is that the current immigration policies were entirely mainstream and bipartisan until Trump. Dan will, absent even a shred of proof, claim that he hated the policies back then, even though he voted for P-BO twice (and likely for Clinton at least once). We'll go back and search his blogs and (likely) find that that he said nothing about this topic or if he did that he soft pedaled it.
I’ll desl with the rest of the idiocy later but I can’t let Dan’s lie stand.
Louisville city population about 625,000
Minneapolis about 500,000
Louisville metro just over 1 million
Twin Cities metro is between 3.5 and 4 million.
I’ll note that Dan dishonestly compared apples to oranges.
As if his lie was some major own.
Media market, Louisville is 49th, MSP 15/16 th.
But it’s a cute flex.
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