https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uONcND8KQE8
For years the "Grab 'em..." quote by Trump has been used to "prove" that Trump sexually assaulted women. Dan regularly uses this straw man. As Rachel Wilson demonstrate in this clip, the quote isn't what people want it to be.
The simple reality is that rich, powerful, high status, men attract some women who are willing to trade sexual access for access to the wealth, power, status of these men. We see it across all walks of life. Actors, politicians, athletes, producers, and CEOs are the types of people who attract some of this type of women.
Some men choose to take advantage of this reality, and some don't. The question would seem to be whether or not the "fault" lies with the man who might take advantage of this situation, or the woman who allows or offers sexual access for personal gain?
One could argue that there is an evolutionary aspect to this. High status men draw young, attractive, potentially fertile women to them which (from and evolutionary perspective) allows them to potentially have many more offspring and spread their genetic linage more broadly.
The final question becomes whether or not this behavior is good or moral. If, and many contend, morality is subjective then the morality of this behavior will be judged subjectively. If there is a universal moral standard, then the behavior might be judged differently based on what that standard might be.
Noting the reality that some women will use their sexual attractiveness to gain access to rich, powerful, high status men and the corresponding reality that some of those men will take advantage of that reality, doesn't automatically imply approval of disapproval of the behavior. It's just noting the reality.
The question of whether or not a man who (theoretically) might take advantage of this reality should be considered for certain roles or positions is another question entirely.
2 comments:
Of course, any honest review of the tape of the original conversation clearly shows that he never said grabbing women by the crotch is what he does. He clearly said women will let men like him do whatever they want to them. The woman in your link is absolutely correct from every angle. He wasn't president at the time. He hadn't thrown his hat into the at that point. The conversation was thought to be private talk between guys, or he likely wouldn't have said what he said in the manner he said it. And it doesn't matter what he said as much as the fact that such women exist and men like him come into contact with them with far greater frequency than haters like Dan pretend otherwise.
As we've both said many, many times, we voted for Trump in the 2016 election because the alternative was obviously and beyond any doubt worse, for we knew what it meant had Hillary won. Trump was a risk, but it paid off handsomely. But neither of us supported him the primary prior to that.
It's not noble or "Christian" to withhold one's vote for someone like Trump when someone like Hillary, Biden or Harris is the alternative. It IS however posturing of the worst kind.
Of course, that is an accurate statement. Trump was merely noting the reality that money and power do attract women who are willing to trade sexual access for proximity to fame and fortune. I think there used to be a term for these women...
I don't have a problem with someone establishing a personal criteria for who they vote for, as long as it is consistent. I may not agree, but that is their business, not mine.
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