" You aren't so evil as to think or say out loud, "Sometimes, when a man beds down a child of 14, it's not rape..." Are you?"
Dan
Yet, strangely enough, this is precisely the position of a very large number of people in 2026. It is the position of those who changed the law of a nation of almost 45 million people. Yet, strangely enough, this is precisely the position of over 20 counties (including China, Japan, Italy and Germany) which have an age of consent under 15 years old. As well as the position of many other countries with and age of consent under 16. Apparently billions of people disagree with you.
" "Aren't you one of the ones who have infamously, vulgarly said, "Some teenaged girls LOOK like women!" in defense of child rape?""
Dan
It is possible to note the reality that more and more children dress and act in ways that are not age appropriate or that end up with a 14 year old girl appearing to be significantly older, while not suggesting that her appearance demands that she be "raped". Clearly billions of people across the globe agree that 14 year old girls are old enough and mature enough to consent to sex. Is the a situation where one egotistical ASPL attempts to place his hunches on the topic over that of billions of others? Is the suggesting that two 14 year olds having sex is automatically rape? Do 14 year old girls lack agency or are they exempt from "my body my choice"? Why can 14 year old girls consent to any number of medical practices or other things that will permanently alter their bodies, but not to sex with anyone? It's not out of bounds to note the increasing number of social media posts for junior high dancethats where the girls are dressed and made up in a manner that makes them look significantly older, but also emphasizes their sexuality. It's also not our of bounds to think that doing so is bad for the girls and bad for society.
Further, when we have two generations of "influencers" who've gotten famous for selling their sexuality or for using their social media to drive traffic to their adult content and an entire genre of porn dedicated to making women of legal age look as young as possible, is it any wonder that our girls are so precocious in how they dress and act.
I am all for protecting our children from things that are better faced as adults for as long as possible, obviously I strongly object when I see young children violently and repeatedly raped because of their culture/religion and when those rapists are treated lightly by the authorities. I strongly object to a culture that so slavishly emulates their founder that they legalize marriage to 9 year olds. I strongly oppose the immense number of women and girls sold into sex slavery or raped before being killed to defile them and keep them out of "Heaven". It seems strange to overreact to someone who notes the fact that younger and younger girls dress and act more adult and "hot", than was the case in the past, by jumping to the "you support child rape" conclusion.
I'll close with a reminder that we had a fine upstanding gentleman strongly defended by his faith community when he was caught for kidnapping and raping a 12 year old right here in River City. That fine upstanding gentleman got what seems like an extraordinarily soft sentence for this heinous crime. This represents a noticeable trend across Europe and the UK, and increasing in the US. Maybe that is something that is actually worth getting upset about.
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What Dan is doing here is what all atheists do when they say they don't need a god to tell them what constitutes moral behavior. It's an arbitrary law regardless of how one justifies it with psychological argument. But it's necessarily something one can argue from Scripture as there is no definitive age restrictions given for what constitutes how old a female must be in order to be an acceptable object of male erotic attention. Moreover, it demands that one's erotic attention is a matter of self-control or self-discipline--OR--it must be as uncontrollable, immutable and innate as the erotic response of a homosexual when lusting after another of the same sex. Once again, after years of exposure to school girls in my various jobs, Dan is absurd to pretend he can look at a girl and know she's "legal"...that it's impossible not to know when a girl isn't over 18.
The reality is that Dan needs to find whatever ways he can to disparage his ideological opponents...to portray them as immoral and corrupt, while he carries on with his defense, tolerance, celebration and enabling of immorality. I don't know what "magic holy rule book" he uses to come to his conclusions in setting his standards.
While I agree with your characterization of Dan's vaunted "moral code" and it's subjective foundation, I'm not sure how much it is in play here. This seems like more of his "I find this personally icky" driven objections. It's more like his conniption fit about the GOP rep who was in his late teens/early '20s and dated a girl who was almost 18 (ended up marrying her as I recall). As you note, it seems problematic to ignore the recent spate of high profile cases of gay couples buying children through surrogacy and sexually abusing them at very young ages.
As you also note, it is sometimes impossible to accurately determine a girl's age from her appearance, and as we know, girls never lie about their age.
It also seems germane to not the number of ASPL celebrities who regularly date women who are decades younger than themselves and get put on magazine covers for their ability to do so.
On a side note, there is room for a discussion about best practices around age gaps, but it's hard to get too worked up about a 50 year old dating a 20 year old when you see 60 year olds marrying 9 year olds. Ultimately, people can date who they want for the most part and whether or not others are comfortable probably shouldn't be an issue. Of curse you're dealing with idiots who refer to old guys who sleep with 17-20 year olds as "pedos" so there is that.
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