Apparently Dan has his panties in a wad about some alleged attacks on people with disabilities. I could be wrong, but it seems like the billions of dollars defrauded from the government by those lying about helping the disabled might have something to do with whatever has his panties wadded.
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If you're referring to his most recent post celebration abject perversion, my response to it is as follows:
You didn't say the guy with the Jerusalem cross specifically identified as a nazi. Thus, I'm guessing you're lying again.
The Jerusalem cross is a Christian symbol consisting of a large central cross with four smaller Greek crosses in each quadrant, representing the Four Evangelists and the spread of the gospel. It has historical significance dating back to the Crusades and is associated with the Kingdom of Jerusalem established in 1099.
"And this beautiful crowd of people?
They're all spitting in God's face by their enabling and celebrating and defending of those who gracefully embrace abomination and that which is undeniably detestable to God. You're the worst of them as you pretend to be devoted to His Word, which in no way provides you with rationalization for your lying.
I fully doubt you're presenting anything akin to an accurate description of the "six white guys" you gracelessly disparage. What in the name of all which is truly holy does their skin color matter? You're clearly racist and pro-sexual immorality!
""Your church is NO church!" they shouted at me, seeing my church name on my LGBTQ friendly shirt."
They're absolutely right. Well...half right, anyway. Yours is clearly and factually no Christian church. It's Satanic posing as a Christian church. No Christian church shows up to a pro-perversion event to join in as yours does. THEY are the truer Christians to show up and speak the truth about the eternal destination your "beloved" miscreants have chosen instead of choosing the Way of Christ.
"Venom, bitterness, hatred, demonization, arrogance."
You project your own particular brand of your sin nature upon others. They seek to persuade prideful sinners to repent. You tell them to go to hell.
"You have to wonder what such groups hope to accomplish..."
No "wondering" necessary. It's obvious. They hope to save souls. You work feverishly to expedite their journey to perdition. And given your joy at the thought of "grandbabies" being among the throng of sodomites? Oh. My. Gosh. There's a huge millstone with your name on it!
"It's just sad and pathetic and I could almost pity them, if they didn't do so much damage in their vengeful arrogance and rage."
What "damage" specifically have they done? You couldn't possibly give a truthful example.
"If the churches who are opposed to LGBTQ folks just existing and being..."
Which churches would those be exactly? Name one. The reality is that true Christian churches don't "oppose LGBTQ folks just existing and being". That's stupid pro-LBGTQ propaganda and yet another lie you tell knowing full well it's a lie. Actual Christian churches oppose sinful behavior such as that celebrated by you and your kind.
"...truly want to try to make a positive impact, they could come and protest the neo-Nazis who are being the face of conservative religiosity on their behalf."
Again you lie, as you've not provided proof any of those "six white guys" were nazis at all, as opposed to better Christians warning your "beloved" sodomites about their upcoming condemnation.
But thanks for confirming once again what we've long known about you. You're no Christian. Not even a little bit.
Time once again for you to delete the truth you're too corrupt and cowardly to confront.
I actually wasn't referring to his fawning "pride" post.
It's probably a good idea to have this comment somewhere that it won't be deleted and lied about.
Dan is obsessed with someone with a Jerusalem cross tattoo and pretends that it is some how a "NAZI" tattoo, while he says nothing about a DFL US Senate candidate with a freaking Totenkophverbande symbol tattooed on his chest.
If there's a "neo-nazi" running he's running as a democrat, not a conservative.
Good call, posting this here, it didn't last at the cesspool.
Dan ignores those of us who'd prefer not to associate with "neo-nazis" or pride parades. It's not as if either of them are paragons of virtue.
He saw fit to submit a comment at my recent post, and unlike a "grace embracer" like Dan, I actually published it. It's the usual Dan BS.
As always y'all missed the point. In your rush to defend neo-Nazis who are sexist and homophobic, who yell down curses and abuse passers-by, you missed the point.
On the one hand you have the beloved community of God. People loving one another, greeting one another, laughing, smiling, joking, hugging, holding hands, dancing, supporting one another, embracing one another, glad to see one another, all meeting together across cultural boundaries, across age groups, across racial boundaries... And then you had the Nazis.
Who would want to be part of what those white Nazis represent? Even if they aren't full-blown Nazis and only sexist and homophobic and racist. Who would want to be part of that? It's vulgar and ugly and arrogant and, ironically, prideful in the not good but rather presumptuous, arrogant, and oppressive sort of way. Who needs that ugly, awful, vulgar shit? Those sort of racist homophobes are bringing hell upon the churches they represent.
Yuck.
Dan
If you say so. I'll simply note that no one here has "defended" "neo-nazis who are sexist and homophobic", especially not for "sexist and homophobic" behavior".
I'll simply note that the only person who could reasonably be referred to as a NAZI is DFL candidate for Senate Plattner. But you'll stay silent on Mr SS tattoo while making up this other nonsense to get your panties wadded.
Coming from someone who has prideful, arrogant, presumptuous, vulgar, ugly" down pat, this is pretty hilarious.
Misrepresent away if that makes you feel superior.
I feel like the chances of getting the fourth simple and direct question in the Q&A post answered has dropped to almost zero %.
Again: don't be obtuse. Don't be an ass. I know nothing about this man you're referencing but he's not a Nazi so don't be an idiot and don't slander. Be a better person than this.
Dan
Really, you "know nothing" about Graham Plattner? The US senate candidate from Maine who has Bernie Sanders and the rest of the DFL leadership insisting that he must be elected because Susan Collins (who votes with the DFL regularly) is too dangerous? You "know nothing" about the fact that he has a rather large Totenkopfverbande symbol tattooed on his chest? (Do you know what the Totenkopfverbande were and why this particular symbol is likely more problematic than a swastika? If not, I would be happy to educate you.)
You call someone who has a tattoo of a Christian cross on his chest a "nazi", but insist that someone with a Totenkopfverbande symbol tattooed on his chest is "not a Nazi". Do you not see the blatant hypocrisy that your ignorance has led you too?
The problem you have here, is that you are the only one calling people "nazis". I haven't done so. What I have done is to point out that the leadership of the political party you support IS actively campaigning for a guy with an actual NAZI insignia tattooed in his chest. Yet you insist that the guy with the actual NAZI symbol tattoo is definitively "not a NAZI" while the guy without a NAZI symbol is a "nazi". Make it make sense.
FYI, of Plattner was too stupid to know what he chose to tattoo on his chest actually was, then he's clearly too stupid to be a senator. But stupidity/ignorance is the only defense I've heard offered.
You may find this hard to believe, but in addition to my full time job and my busy church and family life and my many areas of interests and hobbies, I don't know all the details about each and every person running for office in each of the states or other nations, either.
I suspect you don't, either.
What I DO know - because I'm not a moron - is that this man (who, with what little I know, I wouldn't have voted for) is not a Nazi.
On the other hand, these white thugs preaching bad news and hate at a Pride rally were, if not nazis, were at least nazi-adjacent.
And as you almost certainly know, the Jerusalem cross has been embraced by neo-nazis and toxic male jackasses who fashion themselves as "holy crusaders" in their little godless culture wars. These white thugs were that.
No "beloved community of God" is comprised of practicing homosexuals and lesbians and their enablers like you, regardless of how much "laughing, smiling, joking, hugging, holding hands, dancing, supporting one another, embracing one another, glad to see one another, all meeting together across cultural boundaries, across age groups, across racial boundaries" there might be. Laughing, smiling, joking, hugging, holding hands, dancing, supporting one another, embracing one another, glad to see one another, all meeting together across cultural boundaries, across age groups, across racial boundaries doesn't mitigate the abomination of their chosen behavior. Nowhere in Scripture is there any evidence that laughing, smiling, joking, hugging, holding hands, dancing, supporting one another, embracing one another, glad to see one another, all meeting together across cultural boundaries, across age groups, across racial boundaries matters at all in lessening the severity of the sin of homosexuality. What you like to call a "beloved community of God" is blasphemy. A true and total "deviant community in stark rebellion against God".
And who needs that ugly, awful, vulgar shit? Who would want to be part of a group of deviants who chooses to disparage six guys for being being white...to disparage them as nazis without evidence of any kind except the lie that wearing a hat with the Jerusalem cross somehow signifies nazism, when they could be part of the Episcopal church, or former or present citizens of Georgia.
Yet even if they were neo-nazis, they're still on the right side of this issue of homosexuality. They still were right to point out yours is not a true church (certainly not a Christian church). They're at least correct on the sinfulness and disorder of homosexuality, while you celebrate it while pretending you're not a homosexual.
It's quite possibly true. He's far more like an outright communist. But in any case, communist, socialist, nazi, "progressive"....they're really all the same. And hey! "Thugs" is a racist term! White supremacists use it all the time! So some asshat from Louisville told me!
Did these guys attack anyone physically? Did they seek to physically harm anybody? If not, on what basis can a God-hater like you dare regard them as "thugs", particularly in the face of your thugish attitude towards them simply for speaking truthfully about the damnation awaiting your "community in rebellion against God"??
You may find this hard to believe, but I don’t care to hear you repeat a litany of excuses. You demand that everyone else answer every question you ask, and do so immediately as if none of us have lives.
Yet, I’m magically aware of the dude with an actual fucking SS tattoo who’s running for senate.
Just like none of the people you regularly call NAZIs are actually NAZIs.
Of course none of them tattooed the emblem of the SS Totenkopfverbande on themselves.
The Totenkopf was proudly worn by actual NAZIs, not idiots pretending. It’s the leaders of your political party who are pushing this guy, but you’re ignorant of what your party leaders are advocating.
Got it.
Craig...
"you’re ignorant of what your party leaders are advocating."
What? Say it. What specifically are the Democrats advocating?
Do you seriously think you don't sound jackshit insane if you say that the Democrats are promoting Nazi ideology? You idiot. That's your side, or at least they're fascist-adjacent.
Your con man is the one that's authorizing extrajudicial murders. Your con man, idiot, pervert is the one that's actually invading nations and killing school children. Your fascist wannabe president is the one that's talking about taking over Greenland and Cuba and Venezuela and other independent nations. You've got a wannabe strongman on your hands and YOU are not taking your stand against fascism. Idiot posts like this demonstrate how rationally and morally hamstrung you've become. Stop it. Be better.
Dan
The leaders of the DFL in the senate, (Sanders, Schumer, among others) are campaigning for and encouraging the election
of a guy with a literal NAZI tattoo while y’all are whining about a historic Christian cross which has been appropriated by some.
I’ll keep posting these insane rants, but if you’re going to make shit up and claim that I said it, I’ll stop responding. You’re call. Stay in the real world.
Deranged and hallucinatory isn’t a good look.
He knows nothing about the guy he insists is not a nazi.
The Democrats are promoting marxist ideology. "Marxists, socialists, communists, fascists, nazis....these are Dans cut from the same cloth who sought to distinguish themselves from the others, while all doing pretty much the same things. In our country, they call themselves "democratic socialists". They're all the same Dans. Did I say "Dans"??? I meant to say "liars". "Dan", "liar"....same thing.
Craig:
are campaigning for and encouraging the election
of a guy with a literal NAZI tattoo while y’all are whining about a historic Christian cross which has been appropriated by some.
1. We DO NOT CARE so much if someone has a Nazi tattoo IF they are changed/not Nazis/not fascists. (Well, I care some and probably wouldn't have voted for him, but the point is: IF he's not a Nazi - and he's not, don't be obtuse - then the awful symbol is just that, not a sign of who he is).
2. We DO care if someone is currently, here and now TODAY advocating fascist/sexist/racist/homophobic/hateful oppressive ideas NOW, here, today. And if they want to bring in hateful "crusader" imagery to play little soldier boys, then all the worse!
You see, then, the difference is: I'm opposed to the BAD BEHAVIOR moreso than a bad symbol. Because, of course. That's what reasonable, grace-oriented people do.
Which then, do you think is worse: Someone with a Nazi tattoo who is OPPOSED to oppressive/fascist ideas? OR someone with a Crusader symbology who IS SUPPORTIVE of oppressive/fascist ideas?
It's an easy question.
Good point. The reality is that all of the people that Dan slanders by calling them "nazis, pedophiles, rapists and the like" are not any of those things either. But when the shoe is on the other foot, Dan changes his tune very quickly.
"I know nothing about this man you're referencing"
Dan
"with what little I know,"
Also Dan
Dan "knows nothing" yet makes absolute claims that require knowledge, then acknowledges that his "know nothing" comment is false.
"so don't be an idiot and don't slander."
Coming from an idiot who slanders, this is hilarious. That I've not said anything factually inaccurate, nor slandered anyone is almost not worth mentioning.
Well, recent events in NY certainly seem to bear this out.
"Do you seriously think you don't sound jackshit insane if you say that the Democrats are promoting Nazi ideology?"
Where, precisely, did I say that the democrats are "promoting Nazi ideology"? Quote and link.
"You idiot. That's your side, or at least they're fascist-adjacent."
Well, it appears that the SPLC is funding them, which is pretty much your side.
1. Great, then why the obsession with Hegseth because of his tattoo. It's good to know that you now support people tattooing SS emblems on themselves.
2. I do so enjoy it when you so blatantly demonstrate your double standards.
FYI, NAZI tattoo guy also has a documented history of sexual assault. You know, multiple credible allegations. But who cares about that either.
"I'm opposed to the BAD BEHAVIOR moreso than a bad symbol."
I might believe this had you not just gone after Hegseth for a "bad symbol" but not for "bad behavior". Of course, you disagreeing with the policies he's executing isn't "bad behavior". It's hilarious to see you claim to be "grace-oriented" yet actually demonstrate so little actual grace.
I think that y'all just need to be consistent. That you are making assumptions out of ignorance doesn't help. Is sexual assault an "oppressive" idea/behavior? Can you prove the assumptions underlying your questions to be True?
Back in my Q&A post, I asked you an easy, simple, direct question which you've chosen to ignore.
What is fascinating is that Dan can't simply say that running a candidate with a Totenkopfverbande symbol tattooed on his chest is a bad idea. He's got his milquetoast "I probably wouldn't personally vote for him..." BS, and his "but he's not really a NAZI" excuses, but he can't just say how bad this looks/is.
If nothing else, why would anyone support someone who was stupid enough to get a tattoo of the Totenkopsverbande emblem on their chest? I mean of all of the NAZI symbiology, the Totenkopf might actually be the worst possible choice. If he was unaware of the meaning of the symbol, then he's an ignorant moron. If he was aware, then he's stupid.
The simple fact is that the DFL leadership is actively promoting this guy. Sexual assaults accusations, NAZI tattoos, and all.
Let's not ignore that Dan hasn't acknowledged or apologized for falsely characterizing what I've said.
Dan pretends he's opposed to bad behaviors while celebrating abject sexual perversion God prohibited as the detestable abomination it is and those who indulge in it...while he disparage six guys based on
1. Their race
2. An unverified belief they are "neo-nazis", and
3. They dare speak truthfully about the Scriptural prohibition against the aforementioned detestable behavior which thrills Dan so and the damnation those who indulge in Dan's favorite perversion brought down on their own heads.
In short, Dan calls good behavior bad when it justly indicts Dan and his "beloved community" for their bad behavior.
---Art (currently traveling)
Nor will he. He fancies himself without sin, so why apologize?
---Art
Craig:
Where, precisely, did I say that the democrats are "promoting Nazi ideology"? Quote and link.
Also Craig:
I'll simply note that the only person who could
reasonably be referred to as a NAZI is DFL candidate for Senate Plattner.
and...
The leaders of the DFL in the senate, (Sanders, Schumer, among others) are campaigning for and encouraging the election
of a guy with a literal NAZI tattoo
You LITERALLY called Plattner a Nazi AND you LITERALLY said that Democrats were promoting this guy (whom YOU called a Nazi) with a Nazi tattoo. You're making it clear that, BECAUSE Plattner used to have this tattoo, he can reaasonably be called a Nazi, which is a stupid-ass conclusion, ESPECIALLY when you defend these white oppressors who BY THEIR ACTIONS demonstrate bigotry, bias and fascist tendencies AND who are embracing a white nationalist/neo-nazi symbol.
And, as I've pointed out, even though clearly Plattner isn't a Nazi, I wouldn't have voted for him because of too much troubling baggage in his story (including that when he was a young military thug, he opted to get a tattoo that he should have known was associated with Nazis - just as many young men in the military - and some older ones - will tell you that there was often an air of white supremacy in their ranks). At the same time, you DO defend Hegseth and these group of bad news preachers with the white nationalist regalia.
In other words, you are again caught in your own hypocrisy when you continually strain out the gnats while swallowing camels.
That you quote me, then lie about what I said. Read for understanding doesn’t begin to cover this.
That you quote me, then lie about what I said. Read for understanding doesn’t begin to cover this.
Dan,
In what basis can you claim Platner isn't a nazi? Because he had said he isn't when news of his tattoo came to light? He's still a radical leftist regardless of what label he prefers. So your petulance isn't the compelling attack against Craig you think it is.
And with less evidence, you continue to pretend that Hegseth is someone who should be feared! You once again prove the only hypocrite here is you.
Art,
The problem with asserting that Plattner is not a NAZI is that it undermines the claim that anyone is a NAZI. If the guy with a literal NAZI tattoo gets a pass, then who doesn’t get a pass.
The problem is that Dan has no idea whether he is or isn't a nazi.
---Art
Anonymous...
"In what basis can you claim Platner isn't a nazi?"
On the basis I'm not an idiot? On the basis that he does not promote anything like Nazi ideas? On the basis that, of course he's not.
You see apparently the difference between you and me is that I look at what people say and do and not their tattoos. Both Hegseth and Plattner made extremely stupid decisions to have these symbols tattooed onto their bodies when they were young men. Tattoos associated with Nazis. That was incredibly stupid and a typical toxic masculinity kind of thing that, too many young white men do, not uncommonly found in the military amongst white men. It's a stupid, dumb, childish, immature thing to do, same as tattooing a Confederate flag on you. Incredibly stupid for both of them.
The difference is that HEGSETH has been promoting actively harmful, oppressive, and toxic behaviors, like his attitudes towards LGBTQ people, women, and people of color. Plattner has not.
Are you seriously suggesting that there's evidence, based on his ideals, words, and actions, that he's a Nazi? Don't be an idiot.
Hell, I'm not even saying that Hegseth's a Nazi. That's a specific set of values and policies and attitudes. What I'm saying is he has fascist tendencies and his attitude towards women, LGBTQ people, and black people is outdated and not moral or rational.
Dan
Anonymous wrote...
"You continue to pretend that Hegseth is someone who should be feared!"
If you are a woman, there is something to be feared. If you are LGBTQ or an ally, there's something to be feared. If you are a black person, there is something to be feared.
He honestly is acting like probably what you believe, that the ideas and ideals of diversity and equity and inclusion are somehow actually bad things instead of great things. He literally says things like "the stupidest thing the military ever said was that our diversity makes us great." He is a threat to freedom as we can see, how he is very much opposed to people being promoted based on their qualifications if they are black or a woman or gay or transgender.
The mistake you're making is in thinking that Hegseth isn't a threat. The mistake you're making is that you and he, or both, agree that oppression of certain groups of people - which he HAS been actively, literally doing - is a good thing.
I'm not mistaken, am I? You DO think it's good he's trying to kick gays and women out of the military and even is cutting back on black leadership. You DO think it's good he's he is opposed to diversity and equity and inclusion! You somehow think it's okay because he's called them "diversity hires," just like racists always do.
It's not a good thing, even if you all agree with him.
Dan
I’m suggesting what is obvious. That you and your side have no problem calling people NAZIs for all sorts of idiotic reasons. But the one person running for a national office with an actual fucking NAZI tattoo gets a pass from you hypocrites. Your party leaders are begging people to vote for him.
That you’ve missed the point so completely isn’t surprising, nor is your lying about what I’ve said.
You not apologizing for your lies, is what I expect from you.
You bitching about Art posting under anonymous while he’s traveling, in a comment posted under anonymous sums up your double standard so eloquently.
That none of your pet demographics actually have anything to “fear” is beside the point. You believe that lie, and remain committed to it despite any evidence to the contrary.
Serving in the military isn’t a right, and has always come with limits and with restrictions on actual rights.
I think it’s great that he’s focused on standards and qualifications for the military. The military has never been about social experimentation. The military has a specific role constitutionally and anything that takes away from that role should be eliminated.
But you ARE an idiot. A world class idiot. You've made that abundantly clear since at least 2008 in so many ways.
Platner has identified as both a "democratic socialist" AND a communist. The lines between those and nazis are so thin as to be indiscernable. They're basically semantic distinctions, and you're just like them.
You see, the difference between you and us is that you're truly a idiot as well as a notorious liar. The difference is that Hegseth promotes that which improves military effectiveness and readiness which protects us all, and those like and your kind....such as Platner...continually promote that which brings about nothing but human suffering.
Of course you can't say that a fine American lije Hegseth is a nazi. He's never done or said anything remotely like a leftist, much less a leftist like a nazi.
Yeah, Dan. You're an idiot.
---Art
Just to address this bit of graceless nonsense. ..
"You bitching about Art posting under anonymous while he’s traveling, in a comment posted under anonymous sums up your double standard so eloquently."
What "bitching?" There was a comment was from an anonymous person and I didn't know who. I sort of assumed it was you. All I did was note that the quote was coming from anonymous because I didn't know who it was. How is that bitching? What double standard?
You appear to be hard-set on angry and combative all the time. That can't be good for your heart or your soul. Lighten up, Francis.
Dan
Just the kind of graceless response I’d expect from you.
If you are too stupid, lazy, or forgetful to be aware that Art is traveling and posting anonymously, that’s on you.
You complaining about his anonymity while you post anonymously is just one more example of you being graceless and showing your double standard.
It’s my blog, I don’t need your help with anonymous comments.
Just the kind of graceless response I’d expect from you.
If you are too stupid, lazy, or forgetful to be aware that Art is traveling and posting anonymously, that’s on you.
You complaining about his anonymity while you post anonymously is just one more example of you being graceless and showing your double standard.
It’s my blog, I don’t need your help with anonymous comments.
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