Thursday, May 28, 2015

Marriage

As I was listening to one of the more reasonable conservative national talk show hosts talk about marriage today a few thoughts struck me.

As an aside, I realize that it is redundant to say add that therm "national" to conservative  talk show as virtually all successful national talk shows are conservative.    Anyway, back to the subject.

The topic was an article in the Washington Post regarding monogamy and marriage.

There is a school of thought that would suggest that the reason why we need "gay marriage" is that while gay sex is not wrong per se, engaging in promiscuous and dangerous gay sex is problematic.   Therefore, if gays are allowed to marry they will be less promiscuous and more monogamous, loving and respectful.   Now just on the surface this school of thought is kind of silly.   Many people of varied and diverse persuasions have monogamous relationships regardless of their marital status, so clearly marriage is not necessary for monogamy, some sort of commitment is sufficient with or without state sanction.   

The counter to the above school of thought is to point out the obvious,  which is that there is a significant vocal segment of the gay community which wants marriage without monogamy, they even have a term for this (monogamish).     As Dan Savage points out, "''But I actually think the attitudes we hold about monogamy and the importance we place on it is more dangerous, is doing more damage, is harming marriages, is leading to more divorces than anything I've ever recommended that people do or think.''
''We were monogamous for four or five years and not monogamous for 15 years,'' Savage says. ''We're blissfully happy and we still have sex all the time with each other. I coined the term for our marriage, monogamish, [because] we were so much more monogamous than not.''.

The author describes his position thusly,  "Savage argues that in redefining the old rules of marriage, this is one area where change has not gone far enough. He believes sexual fidelity as a social norm is not merely old-fashioned but is actively damaging to relationships and the individuals within them.".

http://www.smh.com.au/national/on-love-and-marriage-and-why-monogamy-is-bad-for-you-20131025-2w771.html

This attitude seems to be gaining traction within the gay community.

But now we see an article in the Washington Post which demonstrates that this attitude is making inroads into the remaining 98% of the non gay culture as well.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/are-new-dating-apps-killing-monogamy-or-has-it-always-been-dead/2015/05/26/485f07ec-03e8-11e5-8bda-c7b4e9a8f7ac_story.html?hpid=z1


I guess that there just might be some truth to the notion that once one accepts the notion that a marriage means something other than one man/one woman "till death us do part", there is no telling what strange notions come through the door once it gets opened.

But I guess it's also OK to naively believe that if we can just legalize "gay marriage", then all will be well and monogamy will be the norm.   Or one can realistically conclude that the next dominoes to fall will be age of consent, oh wait, there is already a movement seeking to do just that http://www.b4uact.org/.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/normalizing-pedophilia-abolishing-the-age-of-consent

I know, I know, that slippery slope thing never actually happens.

2 comments:

Craig said...

"I think a good marriage is a good and holy thing, in my opinion, because it promotes health, community, love, togetherness."

A blanket statement which ignores the reality we see in the world.

Marshal Art said...

Isn't it fascinating that this 2% of the population just cannot remain faithful without a license? What horse's ass would marry someone that has not demonstrated the ability to forsake all others? This is one of the most insipid of all the idiotic arguments homosexual activists and enablers put forth in support of the unsupportable.

And speaking of horses' hindquarters, is there any more prominent example than Dan Savage? (of course there are---that would be most of the left) It is not, nor has it ever been monogamy that is damaging marriages. It is selfishness and the elevation of satisfying one's self sexually...sexual self-gratification...that is damaging marriages.

Actually there are any number of human failings that are damaging to marriage. Monogamy isn't a failing, it is a state of being one chooses and vows to maintain. Many who take the vow simply aren't mature enough, disciplined enough, responsible enough to make such a commitment. People like Dan Savage are simply horn dogs who allow themselves to be guided by their most base carnal desires. In short, they are children...petulant, self-centered and masturbatory children.