Thursday, November 4, 2021

E xcuses/Election thoughts

 The other night,  we saw election results that shouldn't bode well for the Brandon administration.     The conventional wisdom was the the governors races in VA and NJ were referendums on the Brandon administration.   

Things didn't turn out well for the DFL in either case.  Add in the failure's in Minneapolis to get rid of the police dept, and get rid of Frey, and it looks even worse.


What's interesting to me, is that the left really only has two choices to explain the results.

1.  A failure on the part of the DFL, the candidates, the Brandon administration, and their agenda(s).

2.  Racism.


I wonder which one they'll find more reasonable.

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 It's strange that a bunch of anti-immigrant, racist, mysoginists, would elect an immigrant, black, woman to statewide office in VA.

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I haven't researched this yet, but I suspect that if the demographic splits on the MPLS  question regarding eliminating the MPD are made public that the majority of the "defund the police" voters will end up being white, middle/upper income folks, who live in the gentrified parts of the city, while the majority of the other side will be POC who actually live in the highest crime neighborhoods. 

 



7 comments:

Craig said...

One of the interesting takes regarding the VA governor's race was that the conservative movement/GOP need to be able to develop a movement/strategy that isn't focused or dependent on one single individual or personality, but on a broader base.

It's interesting to see how frequently movements (both secular and religious) that hinge on one specific person or personality so frequently go astray from where they started.


Obviously, I'm not suggesting that the focus of Christianity on the person of Christ is problematic. It's more so when a pastor or pope's popularity turns the focus on them and away from Christ.

Dan Trabue said...

Craig... "What's interesting to me, is that the left really only has two choices to explain the results.

1. A failure on the part of the DFL, the candidates, the Brandon administration, and their agenda(s).

2. Racism."

I think the data would suggest several reasons, including those two to greater or lesser degrees.

That the Democrats can't unite behind a plan is part of it. It's a problem that is shared by the GOP, as well.

That the Democrats AND the GOP are not delivering well on infrastructure (which the majority of the nation wants)

That the Democrats and the GOP are not delivering on finding rational, moral and just policies that improve the immigration and refugee concerns we have.

That the GOP does an effective job of playing on the fears of conservatives and some moderates to make them fear immigrants and refugees irrationally. This creates a large number (if not a majority) of US citizens who fight at finding and implementing policies that are effective, reasonable and moral.

That the GOP has done an effective job of reducing or discouraging the potential number of Democrat voters through gerrymandering and other policies.

And, yes, racism on the part of many conservatives and the fear of white Christian people losing power.

In short, many conservatives fear change, even when it's positive change, and that makes it difficult to create policies and easy for conservative politicians to take advantage of those fears.

Marshal Art said...

I saw some analysis regarding Youngkin not bringing up Trump, while at the same time not rejecting him publicly. Personally, I don't know what his opinion of Trump is, but it stands as a lesson to other Republican candidates. One needn't diss Trump, but one needn't get defensive regarding allegations he's no different.

In the meantime, McAuliffe certainly made it about Trump (as well as racism) and of course, Brandon did as well when he came to help Mac lose.

Craig said...

"That the GOP has done an effective job of reducing or discouraging the potential number of Democrat voters through gerrymandering and other policies."

The notion that the GOP is the only party that engages in gerrymandering is absurd, the reality is that gerrymandering generally has the effect of creating "safe" seats for BOTH parties and is intended to minimize the number of competitive districts. It's really much more about protecting the incumbents of both parties than anything else.


"And, yes, racism on the part of many conservatives and the fear of white Christian people losing power. In short, many conservatives fear change, even when it's positive change, and that makes it difficult to create policies and easy for conservative politicians to take advantage of those fears."



And there it is, Dan chooses to believe the narrative that it's about "race". Like so many other leftist narratives, when everything becomes "racism", the word loses it's meaning.

"That the Democrats can't unite behind a plan is part of it."

I think that'd be covered in my #1. But more than that it's the reality that the DFL is substituting hatred of Trump and racism for even the pretense of a plan.

Marshal Art said...

"That the Democrats AND the GOP are not delivering well on infrastructure (which the majority of the nation wants)"

To the extent that anyone...specifically on the right...care about infrastructure, the right-wing would prefer most any bill which concerns itself solely with it, and not all the nonsensical leftist spending of the current "infrastructure" bills, of which around 10% is infrastructure spending. But even so, most conservatives understand most infrastructure issues are local anyway...not federal. That reduces even more justifying expenditures on the federal level. More than that, conservatives understand that "infrastructure" bills are just an excuse...especially for Dems...to spend like the proverbial drunken sailors. Dems don't give a flying rat's ass about bridges and roads.

"That the Democrats and the GOP are not delivering on finding rational, moral and just policies that improve the immigration and refugee concerns we have."

It's quite clear at this point the vast difference between the two parties.

The Dems want open borders in the belief the influx of immigrants will disrupt the politics of this country in their favor, whereas the conservatives want foreigners to respect our borders and immigration policies put in place for the benefit of our nation and its people, not the benefit of foreigners who haven't shown any desire to be Americans. We owe the world nothing in this regard whatsoever. They want to come here, they must show us they care about being American first and foremost. In the meantime, talk of "just, rational and moral" by Dems/leftists/progressives as regards immigration policy is crap and not to be taken seriously.

"That the GOP does an effective job of playing on the fears of conservatives and some moderates to make them fear immigrants and refugees irrationally."

This is leftist fantasy without basis in fact. Conservatives don't "fear" immigrants or refugees". We fear morons believing the propaganda of progressive lies about our obligation to foreigners. Conservatives do NOT fear legal immigration whatsoever. Leftists fear being exposed for the lying unAmerican, immoral danger to the Republic they are.

"That the GOP has done an effective job of reducing or discouraging the potential number of Democrat voters through gerrymandering and other policies."

Claptrap. Gerrymandering is not exclusive, or even a problem from the right. It is most practiced by Dems. My state has just suffered from another example of it for which we'll suffer for another ten years. In the meantime, the Dems are accomplished at reducing the impact of conservative voters through every means they can implement, most of which are illegal and nefarious.

Marshal Art said...

"And, yes, racism on the part of many conservatives and the fear of white Christian people losing power."

This is a sick fantasy on the part of those like Dan for whom racism is the primary card they play in place of true intelligent ideas. Conservatives fear the seemingly rising numbers of people who lack intelligence, honesty and/or wisdom who then vote for the worst candidates out there...all or most of whom are Democrats. Progressives can't really argue their positions. They default to charges of racism...or some other false "ism" to stoke fear among the foolish. Conservatives act on fact and an accurate understanding of reality. Progressives lie.

All the above are examples of the types of lies Dan is totally cool with perpetrating, because he's a liar. The only other possibility is that he is incredible stupid. Conservatives don't "fear" change. We fear stupidity being accepted as truth and reality. This is how Obama was elected twice and Biden was elected over the far superior and proven Donald Trump. Progressives can't argue against this reality. Conservatives embrace reason, truth and positive and proven change...not what lefties falsely put forth as positive change. Progressives are liars.

Craig said...

Very quick and dirty look at the MPLS voting data shows that the geographic areas that supported getting rid of the cops are the areas where the white, liberal, folx who are gentrifying the city. While the areas that supported keeping the cops are the relatively small high income pocket (relatively low population density) and the (high density) neighborhood that are predominantly POC. Looks like my hunch was correct.

This could be framed as white liberals telling black folks “We know better than you what’s best for you.”. It won’t, but that’s not inaccurate.