Friday, November 8, 2024

4B

 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/4b-movement-south-korea-united-states-election-trump/

 Beyond the unhinged screaming and ranting that plagued social media over the past couple of days, this was also a trend.  Woman after woman pledging solidarity to the 4B movement as a way to "punish" men for Trump winning.  

The first and most obvious thing to be taken from this is that these women do have the ability to control themselves,  and to not rack up huge body counts, is they choose to do so.   In other words, they could exhibit self control and not engage in risky sexual behavior and court pregnancy, but until now they simply have chosen not to.

Second, many of these women are simply unattractive.  Whether it is physically, stylistically, or behaviorally, they are not going to be sexually attractive to the sorts of men they seek to "punish".   As if not having sex with a 350 lb, tattooed, purple haired, pierced, screeching, harridan is some sort of punishment.  

Third, if they are actually able to fulfill their commitment, it could actually reduce the need for abortion. 

Fourth, this "extreme" fringe of liberals seems determined to eliminate themselves simply by not reproducing.  Between LGBTQXYZPDQ+-+, abortion on demand, "transing", and now this, it seems like there will be fewer of these types of people with every passing generation.

Fifth, it's ironic to see these women so fiercely embracing abstinence after ridiculing the notion that abstinence was even possible.

Sixth, the kind of guys that voted for Trump aren't going to be attracted to or want to have sex with these women anyway.    The kind of guys that are attracted to or want to have sex with these women are now going to be pushed towards voting for conservatives because they're being "punished" and blamed for one more thing that isn't their fault.  

I encourage more women to take this pledge and to take themselves out of the pool of sexually available women. 

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Many women are so frightened by the open misogyny of our nation in electing a known sexual predator whose campaign has stripped women of their right to self determination an the way YOU think is rational to respond is with hostile misogyny?

And you wonder why so many women are terrified by people like you and Trump?

Dan

Craig said...

"Many women are so frightened by the open misogyny of our nation in electing a known sexual predator whose campaign has stripped women of their right to self determination an the way YOU think is rational to respond is with hostile misogyny?"

1. The Trump "campaign" has "stripped" no one of any rights.
2. A Trump presidency will not "strip" anyone of any rights.
3. I have not responded with "misogyny".
4. That "many women" have irrational fears (IMO) does not make those fears reality.
5. I do so love it when you comment on a post and your comment is almost totally removed from the post you've commented on.
6. I also love it when you comment on a post with a clear intention to push a narrative, regardless of how unfounded in reality that narrative is.
7. How is it "misogyny" to "encourage more women to take this pledge"?
8. How is it "misogyny" to point out the obvious, that these women refusing to have sex is a good thing on many levels?


"And you wonder why so many women are terrified by people like you and Trump?"

I know of no one who is "terrified" by me. If you have evidence to the contrary, provide it. That some people are "terrified" by something that has a virtually zero chance of happening, says more about them than it does about anyone else. That you and people like you feed their hysteria is simply shameful. That you have to lie to do so, just makes it worse.

Marshal Art said...

The only women "terrified" by Trump are women like Dan.

Craig said...

Well, there's that.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Only the most stupid and most ignorant claim there is “open misogyny of our nation.” The fool Dan keeps calling Trump a sexual predator with absolutely NO evidence. And how in the world did his campaign strip “women of their right to self determination”?!?

How is this post “hostile misogyny” when it makes fun of LEFTST women and their nonsensical tirades?!?

And what women are terrified by Trump and we who read and comment on this blog?!?!?

Dan just says a bunch of moronic crap and expects us to take him seriously!!!

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/11/the_wedding_ring_and_the_election.html

Craig said...

Well, Dan made that claim and he is one of the "most stupid and most ignorant" people I interact with so there's that.

To be fair, Trump's history when it comes to women is not stellar, but generally the rich and famous are able to get what they want due to their wealth and fame.

"A handsome poor man is still poor, but an ugly rich man is still a rich man." Like it or not a certain group of women is attracted by money, power, and fame and will do pretty much anything to get it.

It's not even that it's making fun of them, but it's encouraging them. Their not having sex with every guy they meet is a net positive for everyone.

The only women who are "terrified" of Trump are women who have nothing to fear from him and who'll never get withing spitting distance of him.

I stopped taking him seriously years ago.

Craig said...

Absolutely, single women and married women with (or who want children) are motivated by different things. WK posts article after article about women who buy the lie about how things like travel, career, and body count are the most important goals and then hit an age when they want marriage and can't find guys who'll marry them. It's really not that surprising.

Anonymous said...

"Their not having sex with every guy they meet is a net positive for everyone."

That is hateful. That is misogynistic. That is part of what emboldens sexual predators . And women see that. These women count you and those who say such things as being on the side of abusers and sexual predators.

I'm hearing lament multiple times every day from multiple women I know who will tell you that this language and these policies that maga push are a real threat to their lives. Electing a known sexual predator is a real threat to women and their allies.

That YOU, as a white middle class man with all the privilege that entails, think in YOUR male privilege that their real fears are "irrational " doesn't make it so.

Indeed, when you call these real fears "irrational," is, itself, misogyny.

Dan

Craig said...

"That is hateful. That is misogynistic. That is part of what emboldens sexual predators . And women see that. These women count you and those who say such things as being on the side of abusers and sexual predators."

Are you insane? Do you just make random shit up and spew it out with no regard to reality?

How is noting the reality that a number of liberal women are going to stop having sex with multiple partners to protest Trump anything negative. It's literally just noting reality. It is a net positive as it could likely reduce the number of abortions, and developing self control is a good thing.

"I'm hearing lament multiple times every day from multiple women I know who will tell you that this language and these policies that maga push are a real threat to their lives. Electing a known sexual predator is a real threat to women and their allies."

I hear this bullshit as well. What you have in common with these women is that you don't actually name any specific policy an dhow it will specifically harm anyone. Are you really suggesting that Trump will (this time) use his office to prey on women sexually? That he will magically make sexually predatory behavior legal? That millions of men who have never engaged in sexually predatory behavior in their lives will all of a sudden decide to do so? Isn't living in fear of something that is not real,that can't be identified or defined, unhealthy behavior? How will you and the rest of these women respond when nothing horrible happens? When they can keep getting abortion after abortion for their convenience?

"That YOU, as a white middle class man with all the privilege that entails, think in YOUR male privilege that their real fears are "irrational " doesn't make it so."

Any "fear" which is not based in a real, specific, credible, threat but based in the imagination of those who are afraid is kind of irrational by definition. But, as always, me saying something doesn't make it True. You you making these absurd attacks and spewing bullshit doesn't make your irrational bullshit True nor my opinion false.

"Indeed, when you call these real fears "irrational," is, itself, misogyny."

Watching you scrape the bottom of the barrel and resort to these sorts of bullshit ad hom attacks would be hilarious, if I didn't want to laugh at your pathetic desperation. These off topic, bullshit, ad hom attacks just point out how bereft of substance you are.

Anonymous said...

"specific policy an dhow it will specifically harm anyone."

? BANNING ABORTION HURTS WOMEN. it deprives them of their human right of self-determination. How have you missed that?

It hurts them individually, in the cases we've already seen where denying abortion has led to harm and death AND it harms them as a group by telling them, Your body, MEN'S choice.

I have a young friend who was recently married who was looking forward to having children, but won't because of the threat to her life should the pregnancy have complications.

For starters.

Anonymous said...

I'm pointing you to real women that we know to be in the millions who are furious and frightened by this legitimation of a known sexual predator and a mindset that is pushing back against women's rights and what they are actually saying, and you dismiss their fears as ad hom attacks? How is that rational?

Dan

Anonymous said...

Listen to women. Listen, not attack and mock...

https://www.protectourcare.org/six-ways-that-maga-republicans-are-attacking-womens-health/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2024/11/4/trump-vs-harris-american-misogyny-on-the-ballot

https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardmcgahey/2024/10/09/trumps-economic-policies-will-hurt-working-women/

https://newrepublic.com/post/188159/donald-trump-maga-attacks-women

Sadly, I could go on and on. Do you not know women who are outraged and furious that you all have put in power and idiot sexual predator, as if he were in any way fit for ANY office?

Dan

Craig said...

"? BANNING ABORTION HURTS WOMEN. it deprives them of their human right of self-determination. How have you missed that?"

Well, since abortion is not banned at a federal level, and since non abortion treatment for things like ectopic pregnancies are legal everywhere, I fail to see how anyone is actually "hurt" by a nonexistent federal "policy". The Trump position is that it's a state issue, and as we just saw there are plenty of states wiling to provide unlimited access to abortion for any reason. But thanks for confirming that this election was almost entirely about abortion.

"It hurts them individually, in the cases we've already seen where denying abortion has led to harm and death AND it harms them as a group by telling them, Your body, MEN'S choice."

Every one of the recent attempts to blame bad outcomes on abortion laws was proven to be false. The GA case was from a woman who took an abortion pill unsupervised and who's provider wouldn't give her follow up care and the TX case was most likely medical malpractice as she was treated multiple times and released. But nice try with the bullshit.

"I have a young friend who was recently married who was looking forward to having children, but won't because of the threat to her life should the pregnancy have complications."

Well, that's her choice why don't you celebrate it? She's choosing to live in fear of the unknown, she's choosing not to live in a state where they'll let her terminate the life of her child any time for any reason. Maybe it's not good for children to be raised by parents with irrational fears.

But let's treat your anecdotal story with some anonymous woman as True just because you said so.

Craig said...

"I'm pointing you to real women that we know to be in the millions who are furious and frightened by this legitimation of a known sexual predator and a mindset that is pushing back against women's rights and what they are actually saying, and you dismiss their fears as ad hom attacks? How is that rational?"

Yes, I'm pointing out that you've descended to ad hom attacks much more quickly than you usually do. It's rational because I'm merely pointing out your failures.

Craig said...

I've listened to irrational idiots scream, yell, threaten, and bitch since last Wednesday. I've heard enough idiocy.

"Sadly, I could go on and on. Do you not know women who are outraged and furious that you all have put in power and idiot sexual predator, as if he were in any way fit for ANY office?"

Yes, I have liberal friends and family members who have all sorts of irrational fears. I'm not indulging those fears. I also know plenty of women who are not afraid, but you'll ignore and dismiss those women because that's how you roll. Protect the narrative.

When you say "you all", you mean the Jewish voters who voted for Trump in numbers unheard of for decades, the Amish who came out in droves, and black and Latino voters who also deserted the DFL in large numbers. Dan's in full on blame mode now because his precious right to abortion is "threatened" by the person who's said multiple times he will veto a national abortion ban, and who took the pro-life plank out of the GOP platform.

Yes, being afraid of things that aren't real and are unlikely to happen is irrational.

It's pretty entertaining to watch you lose it like this over abortion.

Craig said...

FYI, the topic of this post (which you haven't actually addressed) was inspired by listening to the women you claim I'm not listening to. Maybe you should pay more attention to the posts, and less to simply trying to jam your carp down my throat.

https://x.com/patriotmom717/status/1856074793449128161?s=51&t=cLq01Oy84YkmYPZ-URIMYw

This is the kind of idiocy you're promoting as good and healthy.

Craig said...

Dan,

I can only assume that you are aware of the multitude of studies that link abortion to multiple harmful things. Depression, suicide, cancer, infertility, and the like. It's so widely known that I can't believe you are unaware of this information, although your ability to silo yourself off from things that might damage your cherished narratives is well known. It's gives you the ultimate get out of jail free card the "Well I've never heard of...", so maybe you've just avoided that for years. Well, Google is your friend/

Craig said...

https://winteryknight.com/2024/09/23/did-amber-thurman-die-from-pro-life-laws-or-from-abortion-pill-complications/

https://winteryknight.com/2022/08/20/new-survey-of-20-studies-about-breast-cancer-abortion-link-3/

https://winteryknight.com/2022/03/11/did-thousands-of-women-die-in-back-alley-abortions-before-roe-v-wade-4

https://winteryknight.com/2011/10/27/wife-sharing-the-consequences-of-sex-selection-abortions-in-india/

https://winteryknight.com/2021/11/22/new-survey-of-20-studies-about-breast-cancer-abortion-link-2/

https://winteryknight.com/2014/04/30/uk-woman-who-had-4-abortions-breaks-silence-to-warn-other-women/

https://winteryknight.com/2012/05/09/when-women-consent-to-have-an-abortion-is-it-an-informed-consent/

I linked to WK posts because he is usually meticulous in providing plenty if citations for his posts, it is easier to use his search and provide you with multiple posts with multiple source links. Not that you'll do anything with any of this.

Craig said...

https://x.com/ianonpatriot/status/1856025550403289343?s=51&t=cLq01Oy84YkmYPZ-URIMYw

Black women voices matter, listen to them.