Monday, September 4, 2017

Hysterical much

Apparently Trump has replaced the DACA with something else, and they hysterical overreaction has already begun on social media.

I'm going to take a moment to say that I do not think that children who's parents violated the law should be punished for a criminal act on the part of their parents.  Given that I do support some sort of mechanism for these people to attain some sort of legal residency status.   I'm not sure about citizenship, because I don't know that they should be rewarded for their parents actions either as well as the fact that citizenship opens doors to bring in additional family members.   I'm not necessarily against it, I would want more details before I form a conclusion.

Unlike some on the left who've jumped head first into excessively strident rhetoric.   Let's consider a few things.

1.  This is NOT "ethnic cleansing".  
      1a.  It is not specifically directed at one particular ethnic group
      1b.  There aren't going to be any people actually intentionally killed.

2.  Remember when P-BO couldn't be bothered to work with congress on immigration legislation?  Well, he decided to rule by executive order instead.   The results of this are that what can be done by executive order, can be undone by executive order.    Or, what's good for the goose...

3.   Trump didn't simply order an immediate round up of these people, he intentionally installed a phase in period, with the intent that a legislative solution can be worked out by then.

4.   Had P-BO done the hard work and come up with a legislative solution and engaged in some bipartisan effort, this wouldn't even be a discussion.

5.  Doing things by legislation is preferable to governing by executive order.

6.  If this repeal makes Trump and the GOP "racist", then I fully expect that there will be explicit and prompt retractions if and when some sort of legislative solution is signed into law.   I realize that it is unrealistic to have that expectation, but at least it's written down publicly.

All things considered, this is a great opportunity for the DFL and GOP to work together on a legislative remedy that will be a more permanent solution.    So far, (and I haven't watched much news coverage of this yet) I've heard a fair amount of GOP legislators who have expressed a desire to deal with this legislatively.   I've heard no one (yet) on the DFL side saying the same thing.


4 comments:

Craig said...

It seems a bit strange, that one argument being used by the left is "You can't hold children responsible children for the sins of the parents.", while at the same time insisting that the whole of the American citizenry be held responsible for the actions of a small number of people who lived hundreds of years ago. Especially while ignoring the many others who made the slave trade possible.

Marshal Art said...

Good points regarding double standards. And I agree with the reward/punishment angle you've mentioned as well. I think a good solution can be had. Don't know if there are enough people on either side of the aisle to get one. Likely, we'll be saddled with something that leaves much to be desired. But for Obama to presume he can ignore the division of power simply to posture as being compassionate is simply more evidence that he was wholly unqualified for the job. He's an idiot.

Craig said...

The problem is, it shouldn't be that hard to find a legislative answer. I've heard zero from the left regarding this, it's all more crying racist. If these folks put effort into demanding a legislative solution, given what the GOP leadership is saying it should be easy. The question is, are they willing to sacrifice 800,000 people to deny Trump a victory.

Craig said...

What's interesting is that P-BO himself said that he didn't have the constitutional authority to do what he did.

Ultimately, Trump is just trying to let this get done correctly.