"This #PrideMonth I want to remind everyone that gay, lesbian, and bisexual people do not need medical intervention. We don’t need puberty blockers. We don’t need cross-sex hormones. We don’t need so-called “gender-affirming care.” We don’t need binders, surgery, or the rewriting of basic facts.
We don’t ask you to ignore what you can see and hear.
We don’t ask you to lie for us.
All we ask is to be treated like everyone else. Our sexuality is honestly the least interesting thing about us. We just want to get on with our lives without forcing people to say things they don’t believe, and without expecting the world to rearrange itself around us.
That’s very different from what we’re seeing now with the +TQ
The gender identity movement is demanding total conformity. It’s not just about how someone wants to live—it’s about making everyone else validate that choice, or else be called a bigot.
People are being sacked, silenced, or even arrested for stating basic biological facts. That’s not progress. That’s coercion.
We are not the same, and we never have been.
LGB people fought to be accepted as we are—not to force others to pretend. We never needed special language, medical intervention, or legal threats. We asked for fairness, privacy, and dignity—not for a new ideology to be imposed on everyone else.
Because being gay, lesbian, or bisexual doesn’t require anyone to lie.
It doesn’t require anyone to play along.
It just requires the world to let us live in peace.
#LGBWithoutTheTQ"
This is a post from someone who I suspect is LGB, who's tired of the "T" folx and their bullshit.
While I obviously am not a big fan of any of this, I do thing that the author has some good points.
The primary point I agree with is the first one. The LGB folx don't need biological modifications, or anything special. They are as they have always been.
Now, the "We just want to get on with our lives..." might have been True of the larger movement at one point, and certainly was a talking point for a minute, the reality is that the LGB folx are pushing their sexuality for beyond the bedroom at this point. If they want this talking point to be taken seriously, then live it out and it'll be obvious. She's right about the sex thing being the "least interesting", yet many/most of the LGB folx lead with exactly that.
I think that, where I see this is that the "T" folx are engaging in a category error, while the LGB folx are not. The LGB analogue is to using a medication off label. They're using things designed to be used one way, in a different way. Not great, not prescribed, but still works to some degree. Of course they can use things in the way that they were designed/intended, they just choose not to,
The "T" folx are engaged in a category error in that they demand the X can magically become Y, yet they also demand the others affirm their delusion. Yet they go further, they also demand that X can also morph into anything between A-Z. When it reality they are simply modifying X so that it superficially resembles Y. Y is not, nor will it ever functionally or ontologically be X, but it is a facsimile of X. Often not even a good facsimile of X. To use the seat belt analogy, it would be like saying that inserting the tab end of the seat belt into the tail of a donkey would keep you safe in an airplane crash. Or like saying that you want to use your Honda Accord to sail to Europe. It simply makes no sense.
As a Christian, I have issues with all of it and how it aligns with YHWH's created order. But I see an order of magnitude difference between "Tab A goes into hole D instead of slot B" and "Tab A must be completely removed and something resembling slot B must be installed in it's place". As humans we're all on a continuum of depravity, we're not all the same kind of sinful and we don't all commit the same number of sins. Yet we're all on the continuum, and the only hope for any of us is Jesus. It's not our job, our deeds, our charity, our empathy, or our actions. It's Jesus, He's the answer.
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The public sex displays ruined whatever might have been fine about “Pride.” They still say it’s about “love” and “acceptance.” That stopped being true around 2013 in D.C., when it became common for shirtless old men to step out for pride downtown wearing leather harnesses, “transgenders” showing off their mastectomy scars and kinky deviants wearing fetish costumes. That has nothing to do with “love” or societal “acceptance” of romantic adult partners. That’s exhibitionism. And I never consented to being exposed to it. (Which is the same thing as sexual harassment, by the way.)
https://thefederalist.com/2025/06/05/gays-ruined-pride-with-accepting-and-engaging-in-public-sex/
Obviously when pride became more about exhibitionism and fetishism, they lost a lot of credibility.
I think that most of us can draw a line (while still agreeing on the sinfulness of the behavior) between what this movement started out as "Leave us alone to do what we want in our bedrooms.", and what it is now "You must accept public displays of all sorts of crap and tell us how wonderful we are.".
This issue crosses so many boundaries: religion, public policy, indecency, exhibitionism, mutilation, informed consent, mental health, physical health, and others. It's hard to deal with all of the ramifications.
Personally, if a bunch of gay folx want to have a parade, I really don't care all that much. As long as I don't have to have it shoved in my face. If gay folx want to live their lifestyle without making their sex life the most important public aspect of their identity, I don't care. If they have higher rates of mental and physical health issues, domestic violence, drug use, and the like due to their behavior, I kind of don't care. (In a general sense of not wishing harm on others I care about people harming themselves, and would prefer that they not, but FAFO)
Long story short, I think that they lost a lot of people's "support" (including a lot of LGB folx) when these events turned into R/NC 17 live sex shows. Honestly it was probably a move from indifference to active opposition rather than support.
The notion that it is beneficial for one's cause to offend those who might not be opposed to your cause to the point that they actively oppose one's cause, seems counterproductive. To then blame people who respond negatively to that provocation, is just stupid.
Glenn...I saw that Eddie Scarry piece. It's crap. I'm not impressed with homosexuals who don't flaunt their sexuality in public but whine about those who do. They've all a part of the cultural decay which continues to worsen with the Ts and Qs. It's all the same to me. And while normal people played their part in cultural decline, they didn't seek a "Fornicator Pride Month" or an "Adultery Pride Month". None of them ever had my support, nor will they ever have it. I bid all of them return to their closets where they belong.
Yeah, because LGBs who keep their sex lives in the bedroom and don't define their entire existence by who they have sex with are absolutely the problem. Good call. It's always best to assume the worst about people who could end up being political allies as the DFL continues it's headlong rush to embrace more and more depravity. Excellent point.
Art,
I agree with you about Scarry, but I thought that quotation was excellent.
Thanks for putting words in my mouth, Craig. Nice of you to ignore the truth of my point, which is that those among the "LGBs" are responsible for the additional depravity they made easier by their own demands, whether they're prancing about publicly or not.
No problem, especially as I haven't done so. You've been adamantly vocal in your insistence that the LGB are somehow "responsible" for the excesses of the "T"s and their supporters.
No one is denying that the LBGs laid the groundwork for what the "T" movement has become. Yet that ignores the reality that the "T"s (and their enablers who are probably more responsible than the "T"s themselves, have taken "Stay out of our bedrooms, and don't actively discriminate against us" and turned it into their won oppressive crusade. That the "T"s are turning on the LGBs and the LGBs are washing their hands of the "T"s is significant in multiple ways. Especially, IMO, as it is one more significant fracture in the DFL constituency.
As I have no problem making political or social common cause with people I disagree with, it makes total sense to me that as conservatives (who want to roll back the "T" madness) we would make common cause with the LGBs on this issue.
Am I ignoring or denying history, no. I regularly reference the history of this movement. Yet do I blame those who started the movement for the excesses of those who followed and those who've exploited this movement for political gain, also no.
As I noted, lumping the "T"s in with the LGBs is a category error to begin with. The "T"s knew that they had huge hurdles to overcome and latched onto the LGB's by pretending that they were the same, while they are clearly not. They were then exploited by the DFL as the newest in a line of "oppressed" groups that they will champion, use for political gain, then discard when the issue gets stale.
You could, and probably would, argue that the LGB are using their biology incorrectly. They they are doing things with their bodies that were not intended. That's a far cry from what the "T" advocacy and normalization is built on. That argument goes beyond "we have a different use for our existing biology" to "our biology is wrong and we must use any means to make biology conform to our fantasies".
Ultimately, I'd argue that the two should never have been linked and that the only reason they have been is for political gain.
It seems obvious that we are approaching this from different angles, and I'm not sure why that is such a problem.
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