https://x.com/platoonpod/status/2075640108150112369?s=51&t=cLq01Oy84YkmYPZ-URIMYw
"I don't label myself The Right, but here's a moral argument: it is immoral to pursue policies that don't work - that will make people poorer and their lives harder - just because they make you feel morally superior. It is immoral to ignore the evidence you don't like. It is immoral to pursue fashion over truth and ego over practicality. It is immoral to ruin people's lives (including the lives of the poorest) to satisfy your own moral narcissism. It is immoral to steal. It is immoral to justify theft on the grounds that a consensus wants to steal. It is immoral to be an MP and be this abjectly stupid."
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Amen and Amen! more than anything else, I object to much of gop and conservative policy because it's just so damn stupid, inefficient and doesn't work. it inevitably costs more and produces less and at a good deal of harm, especially to the poor and marginalized .
Dan
Given that this is is response to a "wealth tax" in the UK (a decidedly left wing policy), your vague and nonspecific response seems a bit strange to me. It's almost like you are suggesting that no policies of the left are stupid, inefficient, fraud ridden, and harmful.
If you say so.
https://x.com/drcharliewardq/status/2076653085787611582?s=51&t=cLq01Oy84YkmYPZ-URIMYw
In the attached clip from CNN there is a discussion of Gavin Newsome's refusal to properly implement policy voted in by the citizens of CA as well as his unilateral closing of 5 state prisons. I can't believe that you would argue that those policies are not stupid and harmful.
Craig...
"Given that this is is response to a "wealth tax" in the UK (a decidedly left wing policy), your vague and nonspecific response seems a bit strange to me."
I'm sorry you have a hard time following.
I was responding to the literal words you literally quoted. Those ARE words of wisdom.
It IS immoral to pursue policies that don't work - that will make people poorer and their lives harder - just because they make you feel morally superior. Indeed. Same for the rest.
I was then explaining that those are precisely the principles behind why I'm so opposed to so many GOP policies.
Follow now?
Dan
1. It’s good to know that you are so opposed to a wealth tax.
2. Your hyper partisan vagueness undermines your alleged point.
But whatever, it’s good to know that you only oppose GOP policies you don’t like.
Some examples of GOP policies that don't work that makes people's lives poorer and harder to live.
https://inequality.org/article/10-terrible-ways-the-gop-budget-causes-harm/
Or hell, just look at the Doge catastrophe! Surely you can agree that that was a fiscal nightmare, right? Or do I need to cite the data for that?
Also not only was it a fiscal nightmare, but there has been documented harm from those policies - they literally made people's lives poorer and harder, especially those who were already poor and marginalized! - and documented abuses by the Doge manboys who were clearly in over their heads and who did not know what they were doing. Do I need to provide the documentation for that or is that a point we could agree upon?
Dan
I get it, you’re in hyper partisan mode and obsessed with focusing on one side of the aisle.
Heaven forbid we talk about the well documented (I posted the receipts last week) significant increase in housing costs because of immigration, the massive amounts of fraud (much of which is concentrated in certain immigrant communities), the cronyism that wasted billions on failed green energy, the billions siphoned off by ONGs, the high speed rail boondoggle in CA, the revolving door for violent criminals thanks to Soros DAs, the hundred thousand and growing number of empty apartments in NY because of rent control, the “wealth tax”, “defund the police “, I could go on but that’s enough for now.
Hell, I gave you a direct link to left wing commentators on CNN talking about left wing waste, but you’re too hyper partisan to even consider anything but GOP.
FWIW, to the extent that the DOGE cuts forced able bodied, employable people collecting welfare to have to work, I see that as a win. Likewise the dismantling of the ONG money laundering was good, except for cutting down donations to DFL politicians.
I’ve been posting about every one of these issues for months, if not years, in addition to GOP policies that I find stupid.
The receipts are available, you just have to look for them.
Oh I'm certain it happens on the left as well. It's just so much more common an overtly bad policy on the right. I mean why do you think with each Republican administration our debt goes up and things get worse and with each Democrat administration things improve? As you note, the receipts are available.
As to your sources I don't find you or your sources to be reliable so I don't generally follow them. You want people to watch, review your sources, use better sources. Grown up, responsible, data-driven sources. Not X.
Dan
That you choose to ignore my sources without looking tells me all I need to know about how important you believe your partisan narrative to be.
But that’s where we’re different, I don’t ignore sources because of who provides them. I seek out sources and information without regard to partisan predilections.
I literally provided you a link to a clip with a left wing, partisan commentator on a CNN show pointing out bad, harmful policies by a left-wing governor. Overwhelmed data from a news organization that leans left from a commentator that leans left, and you choose to ignore it. I understand your hesitation to look at anything that might not confirm your biases and partisanship.
Craig...
"In addition to GOP policies that I find stupid."
Have you talked about how stupid Doge is?
Have you talked about how stupid this whole set of claims about "bad guys" vandalizing the reflecting pool is? ...How criminal it is to make up stupidly false charges against someone who almost certainly didn't do anything and who certainly didn't run a box cutter along the bottom of the pool?
These are things that are causing great harm and vast expenses.
How about the harm caused to the Venezuelans he assassinated? How about the billions of dollars spent in his stupid wars and assassinations?
You strain out the net and swallow the camel.
Dan
This will probably come as a shock to you, but I don’t decide what to address on my blog based on the random things you get worked up over. Whether I comment on your specific pet issues or not, doesn’t mitigate the reality that I regularly comment on GOP policies and people that I disagree with. This complaint, coming from you is pretty hilarious given how rarely you have anything negative to say about any DFL/DSA policies or leaders. This thread is a perfect example of you choosing to simply play your hyper partisan games and spew BS about me and what I post about and say.
I don’t, but you don’t strain out either giants or camels when it comes to DFL/DSA policies, candidates, and leaders.
I’ve served you up a plethora of DFL/DSA policies that you could address, you ignore them. We could talk about Zorahn and his insanely expensive city owned grocery store concept and the abject failures that have resulted from cities owning grocery stores. We can talk about CA laws that virtually decriminalize retail theft under $950 and are causing stores to close.
But we won’t because you won’t acknowledge anything that doesn’t come from your arbitrarily approved approved sources.
I call out both sides regularly.
Yeah, doge being inept and losing or costing us billions of dollars and condemning millions of people to death and harm. That's not worth talking about. Yeah, a criminal and out-of-control administration randomly locking up or killing people without due process. That's nothing to worry about. You're choosing arbitrary things that are not critical to complain about on the Democrats but ignoring massive monstrous actions by the GOP. That's your problem, not mine.
Dan
By all means, provide the evidence to support your “millions of people to death and harm” claim. Everything I’ve seen is that most of the claims are vastly overblown and that the bulk of the USAID money went to ONGs, to DFL campaign donations, rather than to helping the people they claimed.
I’ve addressed the Venezuela thing multiple times, including providing the relevant sections maritime and international law that govern interdiction of trafficking in illegal substances.
I appreciate your need to protect yourself by creating a fantasy world. You can’t proudly announce that you ignore my sources and what I post, while simultaneously deciding that you know better than I what I post and comment about.
You’re just pissed the I don’t do what you want me to do, so you make shit up and lie about it.
I’ve served you up plenty of DFL crap to criticize and you choose not to acknowledge it, let alone the CNN video and liberal guest.
If you want to pretend about what you do, go right ahead. Just stop making shit up about me.
By all means, Horse's Ass (apologies to horses' asses everywhere), provide documentation! I could use more laughter in my life at the present time.
This is who Dan cites to pretend he's got more than shit for brains:
https://capitalresearch.org/article/institute-for-policy-studies-the-lefts-original-think-tank/
Knowing Dan didn't do squat to fact-check anything his communist link presented, I don't feel particularly pressed to do so myself. As usual, he simply found something which said what he needed something to say and pretends he's made a point. He's a buffoon.
I’ll agree that those folx getting food stamps and other government assistance while driving high dollar luxury or sports cars were probably hurt when their scam was discovered, as they should have been. Likewise those who were collecting the same benefit under multiple names or those who literally stole millions intended for feeding children to enrich themselves. They were, and should be hurt.
Transportation fraud, adult day care fraud, housing assistance fraud, every taxpayer dollar stolen hurt the taxpayers of the US and our children and grandchildren.
Heaven forbid that the feds crack down on fraud and abuse.
But, let’s talk about the liberal proposal that prompted this quote, the wealth tax.
So, let’s say this wealth tax is levied on anyone with a net worth over 2 million dollars.
Well, all of a sudden my wife and I would be forced to turn non fungible assets into roughly $100k in cash. What, pray tell should we sell to pay the tax? Our farms? Our home? Our investments? Please tell me what of my property the government should be able to force me to sell to pay a wealth tax. Of course the Black Rocks of the world will be happy to offer us half of what our assets are worth so we can scrounge up enough to pay the tax, and there goes over 100 years of farmland owned by one family because a bunch of liberals want what belongs to us.
Talk about a stupid idea, that gets worse when it scales. Who’s got the money to buy Space X at market value? Worse, what happens if a forced sale drives the value into the dirt, ruining the lives of the employees and degrading the ability of the US to put satellites in orbit?
The amount of harm that a wealth tax would case is incalculable, and the proceeds would not fund current government spending for an entire year.
Yeah, trying to stop fraud is way worse than tanking the economy.
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