Thursday, May 11, 2023

To Be Clear

 We just saw an extensive report yesterday detailing a complex web of LLC's and other business entities which the Biden family established for some reason.   It also looks like there is evidence of these LLC's being used to receive money from various foreign entities with ties to Biden's areas of responsibility when he was VPOTUS.  


To be clear, I have no problem with LLC's, in fact I set one up when I started my current business.   I've also used incorporation in previous businesses, and will likely incorporate my current business at some point.    It's also possible that every single dollar of the millions that flowed to the Biden family are totally legitimate.   But what we've seen so far, certainly has the appearance of impropriety.   Almost as improper as Hunter fighting against paying child support for his illegitimate kid.  


If the name in this story was Trump, the response would be loud, constant, and outraged.  But since it's Biden, the response is muted, to say the least.    It's interesting that most of the complaints about Trump are from his behavior in the private sector, yet the complaints about Biden, The Clintons, etc are virtually all from their behavior in government.  Obviously, bad behavior is bad behavior and should be dealt with, but I can't help but think that using one's elected office to gain personal profit by dubious means, seems a little worse to me. 

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

"After four months of investigation, House Republicans who promised to use their new majority to unearth evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden acknowledged on Wednesday that they had yet to uncover incriminating material about him, despite their frequent insinuations that he and his family have been involved in criminal conduct and corruption."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-house-republicans-report.html

If the sort of influence peddling and exploitation of office done by the Trumps and Bidens, I support finding ways to make it illegal.

But for both the Bidens and the Trumps. Not just one party, as it seems like the GOP wants.

I'm noting we heard no concerns expressed by the GOP or Craig's of the world about this in the Trump years.

Dan

Craig said...

"If the sort of influence peddling and exploitation of office done by the Trumps and Bidens, I support finding ways to make it illegal."

If the Biden's went to such lengths to obfuscate the movement of these millions of dollars to their family, it's likely that it's already at least unethical, of not illegal. I must say that way that you managed to bring Trump (who's currently not president) into this, as a way of seeming to mitigate the Biden's actions. FYI the Biden corruption goes back to his terms an VPOTUS. But you and y'all were never bothered enough by it to investigate it before electing him POTUS.

"But for both the Bidens and the Trumps. Not just one party, as it seems like the GOP wants."

Well, since Biden is currently POTUS and can be impeached, it does seem to make sense to focus on him at this point. Y'all took two politically motivated runs at impeaching Trump and I can't remember y'all producing as much detailed information as we've seen the past day or so. But obviously, this behavior should be eliminated for both parties. Just as obviously, we should clearly ignore the current POTUS in favor of one more shot at the ex POTUS.

"I'm noting we heard no concerns expressed by the GOP or Craig's of the world about this in the Trump years."

Then you're blind, deaf, and dumb. Although we didn't see this level of detail describing these money laundering operations going back over a decade, provided regarding the Trump's alleged activities, I was critical of so many aspects of Trump including his amoral, selfish, manipulation of things to his benefit before he was nominated.

I'm sure you were critical of the Biden's money laundering during the P-BO administration, and the Clinton family money laundering/slush funds during Bill's administration and Hillary's senate/SecState tenure.

But why would I expect you to hold yourself to the same standards you hold others to.

Marshal Art said...

I'm sorry, but I clearly missed all these apparent allegations of Trump misdeeds which are in any way comparable to what Biden is accused of doing. Where was the "Trump laundering story" presented?

Anonymous said...

Trump and his family received tens - hundreds? - of millions of dollars that we know about from more than 100 nations that we know about from his hundreds of companies. How many times did you raise it as a concern over the last 7 years?

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/30/trump-taxes-foreign-income-00075872

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/10/trump-foreign-business-deals-1020/

Just round numners... how many blog posts did you write about Trump family financial schemes?

0?

"But since it's Biden, the response is muted, to say the least. "

The GOP has complained and investigated endlessly the Clinton's, Obamas and Bidens and in almost every instance, there was no There there. You can only cry wolf so many times.

Dan

Marshal Art said...

Oh!!! Dan's pretending legit business profits equates to corruption akin to the influence peddling of the Bidens. Got it.

Craig said...

Dan,

There is ample evidence that the Clintons and their foundation have engaged in corrupt behavior, but you wouldn't deal with it years ago, when I posted in detail about it, so I don't expect you to know.

So far, all of these allegations about Trump have resulted in two failed impeachments, one civil suit that absolved him of rape, the exposing of multiple false claims about Trump (The Steele dossier, ties to Russia, ect) which we've found were manufactured and used by the Hillary campaign, and the like. I've criticized trump for all sorts of things, and if these claims are proven True, I'll add them to my list.

None of that matters, when it comes to your (mostly) silence when it comes to folks on "your side". Hell you've got a DFL congresscritter who managed to profit from both sides of a recent bank failure, and you don't seem bothered enough by that to say a word.

I'll give you credit for your attempt to use my alleged failure to bitch about the Trump scandals you think I should bitch about as a way to deflect from your (mostly) silent response to the Biden family corruption.

Craig said...

Art,

You must have wasted the time to check Dan's links. I decided that since they weren't from upstanding, unbiased, hard news sources, that they were likely skewed to advance an agenda.

As a general rule, I can see how ANY president who has ANY business dealings outside of their political career opens themselves up to legitimate business profits and dealings being misrepresented. It's clearly impossible for Trump to 100% divest himself of his business entities entirely, and it's possible that people will do business with a Trump entity because they believe it might get them something in return. Where it gets dicey is with folks like the Clintons, Bidens, and P-BO. They have spent their entire lives in government, so there are very few legitimate reasons for them to have accumulated millions of millions as government officials. The Clintons claimed that they were essentially in poverty after Bill left office, yet somehow they managed to amass over %100 million in short order, while Hillary was still in government.

I'm not saying that Trump is as pure as the wind driven snow, but I am saying that he has businesses that reasonably would make significant amounts of money.

It's this strange gift of being able to find something wrong with everything your political opponents do, while remain virtually silent when your political allies do similar things.

It's why I've always said that I like the idea of a Trump like candidate, but wish Trump wasn't him. Having someone who's experience is NOT entirely in the political arena seems consistent with what the founders wanted. I think it was Truman who warned against politicians who made millions as politicians.

Dan Trabue said...

" I like the idea of a Trump like candidate"

One who is perverted? An overt sexist and misogynist? A corrupt and utterly vulgar liar? One who is completed narcissistic and amoral? WHAT can you possibly find positive in a "trump-like" pervert?

The man is a deviant and an obvious threat to a free republic, with his attacks on facts, experts, the free press and his appeals to sexists, perverts, rapists and nazis... What could you POSSIBLY find appealing in a pervert/corrupt/racist/Nazi-like candidate?

Do you not at least understand WHY that sounds so vulgar and deviant and anti-Christ?

Dan Trabue said...

There is ample evidence that the Clintons and their foundation have engaged in corrupt behavior,

And at ANY SINGLE POINT IN THE REAL WORLD OF REALITY and whatnot, you present ANY evidence to support your conspiracy theories and demonstrate them to be even LIKELY, I would agree with you. WITH EVIDENCE. But the problem is that the GOP has cried wolf SO long attacking basically decent people while ignoring the deep perversions of their own people that we have NO reason to take you seriously.

As long as you play down the DEEPLY perverse, evil and corrupt Trump perversions while appealing to right wing conspiracy theories that have NEVER produced any evidence to support them, you show yourself a disciple of perversion and indecency.

Dan Trabue said...

And again, I'd ask you...

Just round numbers... how many blog posts did you write about Trump family financial schemes?

ZERO?

Craig said...

Oh, look. Dan has chosen to take what I've said out of context to ask incredibly stupid and pointless questions.



"One who is perverted?"

You mean one like John and Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and Biden, no. I meant (and said) one who's experience lies outside of government, one who has real world private sector experience> But you could have figured that out simply by reading.

"An overt sexist and misogynist?"

See above.

" A corrupt and utterly vulgar liar? One who is completed narcissistic and amoral?"

See above. Although, I have said that I believe that some degree of both narcissism and amorality are not entirely bad traits for a president.

"WHAT can you possibly find positive in a "trump-like" pervert?"

See above and my original comment.


"The man is a deviant and an obvious threat to a free republic, with his attacks on facts, experts, the free press and his appeals to sexists, perverts, rapists and nazis... What could you POSSIBLY find appealing in a pervert/corrupt/racist/Nazi-like candidate?"

See above and my original comment.

"Do you not at least understand WHY that sounds so vulgar and deviant and anti-Christ?"

If you mean when you take what I said out of context, edit it, and pour all sorts of idiocy into it? No, the entirety of what I said is exactly what I meant, it's not my fault you are too lazy to read, too stupid to comprehend, or too corrupt not to misrepresent my words.

Craig said...

"And at ANY SINGLE POINT IN THE REAL WORLD OF REALITY and whatnot, you present ANY evidence to support your conspiracy theories and demonstrate them to be even LIKELY, I would agree with you. WITH EVIDENCE. But the problem is that the GOP has cried wolf SO long attacking basically decent people while ignoring the deep perversions of their own people that we have NO reason to take you seriously."

I have done so at least twice right here on my blog. The fact that you chose not to engage with that expensive information dump then or now, is not my problem.

"As long as you play down the DEEPLY perverse, evil and corrupt Trump perversions while appealing to right wing conspiracy theories that have NEVER produced any evidence to support them, you show yourself a disciple of perversion and indecency."

Well, since I haven't "played down" any of trump's actions, trump's lack of character, and general unsavoryness, I guess I'm OK. Unless you really want to claim that the only proper way to evaluate Trump is to do so in the exact way that you choose to.

Craig said...

"Just round numbers... how many blog posts did you write about Trump family financial schemes?

ZERO?"

Again, see my answer above.

Which is precisely the same number of posts you've written on the various Biden financial scandals, Biden's decades long penchant for lying and plagiarism, and his general unfitness for office.

Again with the double standard. Your stock excuse is that you don't have the time or inclination to write about every topic that others note your silence on, strangely you don't apply that sane logic to anyone but yourself.

I'll eagerly await your thorough discussion of the Durham report, the fact that you trumpeted the lies it deals with (and never retracted your claims), the corrupt behavior of Hillary and P-BO, and the lies perpetrated by the MSM.

The problem you have is that you choose to trumpet the lies about Trump when they are told, then stay silent when they are proven to be lies. Likewise, you excuse the claims about Biden and Hunter selling influence etc, yet remain silent when those claims are found to have substance.

If all you have is misrepresenting what I've said, and these pathetic attempts to divert attention from the corruption of the Bidens and the Clintons, then you are clearly in desperation mode.