Wednesday, December 12, 2018

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“The older I get, the more I'm enamored with the fact that in the Christian message, the story of Bethlehem–leading to Calvary and to the empty tomb–is the only one that gives to us not only the answers, but even helps us justify our questions.”

Ravi Zachariahs

the promise of love & grace in our lives is this: our worst day isn’t bad enough, and our best day isn’t good enough. we’re invited because we’re loved, not because we earned it.” 

Bob Goff

Loving people means caring without an 
agenda. As soon as we have an agenda, it’s not love anymore.” 

Bob Goff 


“A moral standard must remain the same or it is not a moral standard”

G.K. Chesterton



“Jesus never promised to eliminate all of the chaos from our lives; He said He'd bring meaning to it.”

Bob Goff



2 comments:

Craig said...

With all of this truthieness and directness going on, I missed any actual verifiable sources being cited. Just the same old “I know someone who..,”.

Same old crap, different day, still no citation of actual sources.

Of course no call to do anything but make government policy based on progressive christian dogma, open the borders to all, and propose absolutely zero solutions to the problems.

Maybe if they all followed the lead of Venezuela, things would be better with some socialism.

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Craig said...

PM
I’m questioning your citation of nameless experts because if they remain hidden from view there is no way to evaluate your claims. It’s simply you making second hand claims about the expertise of some unnamed expert and expecting that it be treated with the same gravity as the citation of a third party with specific, objective expertise. Your asking us to believe that these unnamed experts aren’t swayed or influenced by religious or political beliefs, just because you say so.

I’m not questioning the actual expertise of these people, how could I? I’m merely suggesting that if you’re going to expect others to provide any level of indecently verifiable support for their claims, that perhaps you should offer the same.

I have no idea why “most people” come here, I have some specific knowledge of why specific people came (including one with a fatwa issued by practitioners of the religion of peace because he had the nerve to talk about Jesus). So, I’m sure there are varied reasons.

As you’ve mentioned earlier, some of them are clearly lying about their reasons. Some may only lie a little, some a lot. I have no way know what specific motivations are and how honest they are. FYI, if they’re alive, they’ve most likely lied at some point.

I’m saying that I cannot speak to specific reasons why individuals choose to leave their country of origin, I’m sure there are multiple reasons, some honorable and some less so.

I have no way to confirm the existence and/or veracity of your “experts”, because you’ve provided no means to confirm. For the same reason I am unable to independently confirm your veracity in this matter. I find it suspicious that you can’t or won’t provide verifiable proof, but I couldn’t say that you’re lying. There’s just no evidence.

Of course I have no way of objectively “knowing” what the innermost motivations of “most” immigrants who choose extra legal means to enter the US I’ve never claimed otherwise (I do know some specifics of some legal immigrants), and certainly wouldn’t try to extrapolate what I know beyond those specific people.

I’m sure I could form an educated guess, but what purpose would that serve? Why would I want to judge individuals based on a “guess” I’ve made? Of course, even making that “guess” presumes 100% honesty on the part of a lot of people.

Since I responded to your comments in order, it will be interesting to see if you wait until the answers or not.


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