Let's get this straight.
A British Muslim takes hostages in a synagogue in TX, demands the release of Aafia Siddiqui, (knows as Lady Al Quaida for planning AQ terrorist attacks in the US, UK and Pakistan and shooting at US troops when they detained her), yet the FBI is stumped by what the motive could possibly be?
Could he be a Trump supporter?
A domestic terrorist?
Fomenting insurrection?
A parent trying to protest the actions of their school board?
But the one thing that an armed Muslim who invades a synagogue and takes Jewish hostages absolutely cannot be, is Anti-Semetic.
Anyt-Semitism, the one type of "racism", that the left will pretty much ignore or excuse.
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From CNN: "As the FBI investigates the Colleyville, Texas, hostage standoff as terror-related..."
They identified this as terrorism related. On Monday. Two days after the hostage situation.
Two days.
Is your concern that they didn't look at this guy, see that he was a Muslim, and immediately jump to the conclusion that he was a terrorist and that this was an antisemitic assault?
I thought you were the one who cautioned against jumping to conclusions.
In a society that has a history of too-often jumping to conclusions when it's a brown person or a Muslim or foreigner involved, caution is a wise move.
And in a society where, too often, we have seen white racists/supremacists/militia types get away with murder, a bit more even-handedness is needed. You know, I guess, that we have a history that is well over a hundred years of white vigilantism and attacks on people of color that has often gone unpunished?
Have you been watching the Emmett Till story that's been on TV lately? I encourage it. It's a painful, horrible thing to watch and more of us white folks need to see it, nonetheless.
"Is your concern that they didn't look at this guy, see that he was a Muslim, and immediately jump to the conclusion that he was a terrorist and that this was an antisemitic assault?"
No.
"You know, I guess, that we have a history that is well over a hundred years of white vigilantism and attacks on people of color that has often gone unpunished?"
Yes, I am aware that many crimes have gone unpunished over the course of human history.
Why right here in this liberal utopia, we've seen multiple crimes against black people go unsolved and unpunished.
I love your insinuation that I an unfamiliar with the story of Emmett Till, and need to watch a fictionalized version of it on TV so that I can catch up with you.
"Have you been watching the Emmett Till story that's been on TV lately?" does not equal, "I assume you're not familiar with the story of Emmett Till."
There was no insinuation. Literally none.
Perhaps this is the problem you have with The Bible... A simple inability to read words and form correct, reasonable, factual conclusions?
Look, if you want to believe that a Muslim taking Jewish hostages was just a coincidence and that anti-Semitism played absolutely zero role is his decision, feel free. Clearly you and the media will do everything possible to get this story out of sight as quickly as possible. Just like the Waukesha attack, this one doesn't fit the narrative, and therefore it needs to be put out of the public eye as quickly as possible.
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The story is FOUR days old. We're still learning the facts. Maybe it is antisemitism. Maybe it's a crazy person. Maybe it's an attempt at terrorism.
We literally factually do not know.
Are you saying that you think it's a good idea to jump to conclusions?
I would counsel that jumping to conclusions is a bad idea.
"Put out of public eye..."
Again, there is no evidence that the media wants to put any deadline to put any deadly events out of the public. If you have data to prove such a charge, provide it. Until then, I would counsel that it is unwise to make such stupidly false accusations.
Craig... "Could he be a Trump supporter?
A domestic terrorist?
Fomenting insurrection?
A parent trying to protest the actions of their school board?"
The irony here is that you don't appear to understand why we have to take all these possibilities into consideration precisely because of the white supremacy/pro-Trump-idiocy movements and the real danger they pose, according to legal authorities.
You can pretend like all of these experts and legal authorities and investigations and data are part of some vast left wing conspiracy promoted by people and the press who hate white people and the US, but this is the world that Trump supporters (like Marshal) and Trump defenders (like you) have put us in, precisely, in part, because you continue to deny what experts are telling us.
Posts like this are a lame attempt to continue the attack that others have started but Trump has led for several years. It's a dangerous attack and people really need to stop and be a bit more level-headed and rational and not prone to let their fears make an enemy of your neighbors and heroes like the hard-working members of the free press.
What a strange position for you to take. For the first time in my recollection, you are actually advocating waiting until we have more evidence to make a judgement.
I guess my hunch that y'all will react differently to these sorts of incidents when they don't fit your narrative is closer to correct than I thought.
Ok, there was no insinuation.
So, you make a Trump-like false claim - a stupidly false claim - and find no problem with that, and yes, we DO react differently to stories of white supremacists and their allies (who have historically committed murder and gotten away with it and their oppression has gone ignored by "good white folk" like you) and Muslims, who have historically been oppressed by "good white folk" like you.
The difference?
We're not denying that there are some Muslim extremists who are acting violently, which MAY be the case here (we don't know yet). And yet, you all continue to deny or downplay systemic racism and the threats of white supremacists that even traditionally conservative law enforcement agencies are identifying as a real threat.
It's highly amusing Dan actually buys into the "white supremacy is our greatest threat" joke.
I think his intentions were pretty well know on the day it happened by those he held hostage. After all, they were there to hear his ranting.
But it's the same old same old. I'll give the FBI this much slack...law enforcement generally stays tight-lipped until all their ducks are in a row. But for the press to pretend, to withhold a name...this type of stuff goes on all the time. They have a narrative and how they report on these things depends upon the effect on the narrative.
And Dan proudly admits to his hypocrisy and double standard, right here. The fact that he admits to having one standard for a group (based on what others who he puts in that group have allegedly done), while having a different standard for another group. The reality is that judging people based on the actions of others is wrong. Pre judging people based on one's biases and assumptions, is wrong.
As always, I appreciate it when Dan provides such excellent examples of the points I try to make.
It's being reported that the kidnapper had a history of saying that he wanted to kill Jews, and that the hostages report his use of anti-Semitic language as well, but that doesn't matter to the left. He's "oppressed" so that gets him a mulligan.
It's interesting to think of a Muslim being "oppressed" given the reality that Muslim countries are some of the most "oppressive" regimes on earth, and of the Muslim tactic of forced conversion.
Art,
You may be right, but as Dan demonstrates, the left and the media are going to ignore and make excuses for his anti-Semitism no matter what the facts show.
And also as always, Dan plays the race card, accusing us without evidence (again) of being racists, too. But to his way of thinking ("thinking" being something at which he's never shown much expertise) its you who'd "make a Trump-like false claim - a stupidly false claim". He totally supported as a better choice than Trump a guy with a well known history of truly lying and making false claims...and still does routinely...and he dares continue to pretend Trump is the liar. It's the kind of lying which has made Dan just do damned endearing to us all these years.
Perhaps I have studied Islam for too many years because when I first learned of the hostage-taking my immediate reaction was, if it's a Muslim then he's anti-semitic and he doesn't get his way he will kill them because Muslims are taught to kill Jews; it's in that book -- you know, the Qur'an.
Art, as usual, it's easier to mischaracterize one's opponents and to smear them as "racists" than it is to have a discussion. Obviously supporting a candidate with a decades long record of lying, while pretending that honesty is important, is the height of absurdity.
What's really interesting is that I'm hearing about people who have posted some of Biden's speeches (where he gets a little racist) on social media and are having those posts deleted for being inaccurate. I hope to have some time to research this and go deeper soon.
Glenn, why keep bringing up the obvious? The notion that the vast majority of Muslims are not anti-Semitic is simply absurd. The fact that anti-Semitism is the one form of "racism" that gets a pass from the political left is shameful.
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