Monday, October 30, 2023

But Israel...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/27/world/middleeast/palestine-gazans-hamas-food.html 


As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of Supplies

Hamas has spent years stockpiling desperately needed fuel, food and medicine, as well as ammo and weapons, in the miles of tunnels it has carved out under Gaza.

 

"Hamas has hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel for vehicles and rockets; caches of ammunition, explosives and materials to make more; and stockpiles of food, water and medicine, the officials said. A senior Lebanese official said Hamas, which is estimated to number between 35,000 and 40,000, had enough stocked away to keep fighting for three to four months without resupply.

One of the four Israeli hostages released by Hamas even described the group providing captives with medicine, shampoo and feminine hygiene products. All are now said to be extraordinarily scarce in Gaza more than two weeks after Israel, aided by Egypt, imposed what it called a “complete” blockade following the attack by the terrorist group on Oct. 7."

 

But the conditions in Gaza are all the fault of Israel.  

 

 

11 comments:

Marshal Art said...

Despots always hoard what was sent to aid their people.

Craig said...

I wouldn't say always, but definitely a very high percentage of the time. The fact that Hamas is hoarding vital supplies, while the rest of the world bitches about conditions in Gaza tells us all we need to know about Hamas concern for it's citizens. It also tells us all we need to know about the sheep who bleat along to the popular narrative they're fed from the majority of the media.

Marshal Art said...

I'd say always, because it's part of what makes them so despotic. Their despotism is mostly defined by how they treat those they "govern" and exploit...as they do in accepting "aid" from foreign nations which they mostly keep for themselves.

Craig said...

That's your prerogative, regardless of whether or not it aligns with reality. But I rarely find that absolute, blanket, statements are actually True.

Marshal Art said...

Really? What do you think a despot is? What makes them despotic? Are you aware of any despots who sacrificed on behalf of the people who suffer under their despotism? Describe the reality of which you speak as it relates to despots.

And by the way, I don't put it past despots to make token gestures of aid to their people for the purpose of deflecting the points I've raised. That's not the same thing as truly moving foreign aid to the people.

Craig said...

How did Dan hack Art's account? Hell, Dan can't seem to post under his own account most of the time.

I honestly don't see the point of this semantic lecture on one aspect of despotism.

The point of the post is that the MSM, liberal establishment, and a massive amount of people on social media have bought the narrative that Israel, and only Israel, is responsible for conditions in Gaza. They don't care about any facts that might not support the narrative, because the narrative fits their worldview. Why you think that hinges on the term despot, makes no sense to me.

Marshal Art said...

You reject my position about the nature of despots. Why is that? I've asked questions seeking clarification and you insult me by presuming I'm acting Dan-like. The conditions in Gaza are clearly and unmistakably a consequence of despotic rule. The point doesn't hinge on the use of that term. It's simply one which is appropriate for the situation. How can it not be and why would you choose to question it in any way? Because I said "always" in regard to their hoarding aid meant for the people over whom they rule despotically? Your objection and subsequent responses and attitude seem to hinge on the term "always" and it makes no sense to me.

Good gosh! Perhaps you've been exhausted by so many Trabue comments. I'm going to go with that.

Marshal Art said...

To go a step further, because I feel like belaboring the point, you say it's my prerogative to express myself as I did, but then you've actually demonstrated it does indeed align with reality.

"The fact that Hamas is hoarding vital supplies, while the rest of the world bitches about conditions in Gaza tells us all we need to know about Hamas concern for it's citizens."

Reality. Alignment.

Craig said...

No, I find your obsession with the term "despot" to be irrelevant to this comment thread.

That second comment is pretty Dan like. We do agree on the actual conditions in Gaza and the Hamas is responsible for them. But the obsession with the term "despot", not so much.

Marshal Art said...

I'm not the "obsessed" one here, Craig. That you find it necessary to fight this battle is absurd to me. So, you give me crap for regarding them as animals...which is an insult to animals, actually..., and now you give me crap for referring to them as despotic, which they most certainly are, and despots always take for themselves as you agree yet think "always" is going too far. Then you accuse my comments as being Dan-like simply because I won't agree with you, which is truly Dan-like.

How long do you want to carry on with this?

Craig said...

Really, you're the one who's entire point hinges on the word "despot", you're the one who keeps arguing that "despot" is the only applicable term. Hell, you're still focusing/obsessing on it.

I'm not and never have insisted that you agree with me. I am perfectly comfortable with disagreement on a semantic issue.

I'll give you a hint. I'm not "carrying on" anything. I am responding to your comments. If you think that I should simply stop responding to your repeated comments, repeating the same talking point, just say so.