Tuesday, October 17, 2023

Responsibility

 As part of the wanton, barbaric, rampage that Hamas engaged in they took hostages back to Gaza.  Israel has mobilized the IDF to move into Gaza, eradicate Hamas, and free the hostages.  As a part of this mission, it's unavoidable that things will be broken and people will be injured or killed.   Many people are criticizing Israel for this, while completely ignoring that Hamas could end this quickly by releasing the hostages.  It's strange how so many people are completely unwilling to understand that Hamas has brought all of this on themselves and on the people in Gaza.  

It's amazing how many people will argue over whether or not children were decapitated, had their throats cut, or were merely brutally murdered but accept without question that the hospital damage was from the IDF, not from a Hamas rocket that misfired.   

10 comments:

Marshal Art said...

That such liars think they're actually fooling anyone but fools is truly amazing!

Craig said...

The fact that the MSM jumped so quickly on this bandwagon with little attempt at verification of the Hamas press release tells us plenty about the MSM.

Marshal Art said...

The MSM and of course "the Squad", with inveterate defender of murder, Rashida Talib putting on an act of abject sorrow over the possibility of children dying in the bombing, or as a result of Israeli response to the murderers she supports, defends, promotes and celebrates (who else acts this way when those committing bad behavior suffer backlash? Hmmm.). At the same time, the vile P.O.S. wasn't recorded at weeping in great sorrow over infants being beheaded, girls being raped, children being brutalized simply because they're Jews or Americans.

Craig said...

Obviously there is plenty of anti Semitism on display here, thinly cloaked in support for Hamas.

Marshal Art said...

You see cloaking? I don't see any cloaking. It's naked hate for Jews without remorse.

Craig said...

Yes, I do see people trying to pretend as if there is a significant difference between Hamas and the people of Gaza.

It's also amazing to see how many people who don't understand the notion that any aid actually spent on humanitarian relief simply frees up money to be spent on more terrorism.

Marshal Art said...

I don't see aid of any kind for a people...whether a legit nation like Iran or a pretend nation like "palestine"...who seeks our or Israel's destruction as a good idea in any sense. At least in Iran, we've seen a few instances where the people seemed to oppose those of the ruling class (and during Obama's time, they were abjectly ignored in favor of the Iran Nuke Deal), while in the area referred to by liars as "palestine" we've seen no similar evidence.

In the meantime, we've seen numerous examples of financial aid, as well as food drops, being commandeered by scumbags while those truly in need get nothing but more suffering. What then is the point of sending any if we can't make damned sure it gets to those we believe are innocent victims of those scumbags? It seems that would require a physical presence which leads to other issues.

Craig said...

I'm not addressing whether or not aid is "good" or not. I am pointing out that aid is fungible and that giving $100 million in "aid" that is restricted to X,Y, or Z merely frees up $100 million from other sources to be used for evil.

The commandeering of "aid" is one of the biggest problems with aid of all sorts. Dead Aid addresses this extensively and the fact that those in power siphon off huge chunks of any "aid" is a compelling reason not to continue to throw money at these problems. Obviously a physical presence can help, but does lead to other problems.

In any case, I've not argued that "aid" is a "good" thing in this instance. I've merely argued that wiping every human in Gaza off the face of the earth is problematic.

Marshal Art said...

I don't see how it necessarily could be. What good have they been to the region or the world? Do they produce anything you personally want or would like to have or about which you see any value? About all which is produced there is militant hate. Now, I'm not saying that I want to see anyone nuke them out of existence. I'm just saying I don't see how it would be a problem beyond inciting other Jew?West haters to act against Jews and the West. If that were to actually happen, I would hope that any good pallies...assuming some exist...would be able to evacuate first.

What would make me happiest, given the real possibility there's no way to stop their hatred of the Jews and the West, is that they be removed from Gaza and the West Bank entirely, and reabsorbed into whatever arab nation will allow them entry. That seems unlikely, or they would have done it long ago. But currently, their existence as a pretend nation is solely for the purpose of rationalizing attacks on Jews. Thus, I don't care if they will no longer exist and am convinced the world would be better off without them, just as I believe the world is better off without criminals.

As to aid, I also insist it's not "good" because it's fungible and in the case of the pallies, NEVER used much for good purposes. Indeed, even if it's used to build schools or hospitals, the people are still committed to wiping out the Jews. So no. There's not legit reason to send a red cent there. Their suffering is self-inflicted. Let them wallow in it.

And keep in mind, Trump denying money to Iran and other bad actors made their plans far more difficult to carry out. The same policy will work here as well, especially if we cut off Iran, too.

Craig said...

Well, that's your opinion and your welcome to it.

The problem with any other Arab nations absorbing them is that they don't want them. The rest of the Arab world has invested too much into keeping these people as "refugees" and stoking anti Israel anger and hatred among them. They want a semi deniable bunch of terrorists that can be deployed against Israel without actually taking responsibility for the carnage and barbarity.