Tuesday, November 7, 2023

The I'm going out of town and wanted to post all of this stuff post.

https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-member-says-repeat-attacks-065643206.html

 Tell us what you really think.

 

 https://abc7.com/westlake-village-elderly-jewish-man-dies-pro-palestine-rally-demonstrators/14019727/

Just a coincidence, nothing to see here, move along now.  


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/world/middleeast/yemen-famine-children.html

"More than 85,000 Yemini children died under the nose of Muslims. That's 21 times more than what's happened in Gaza. 30,000 children were killed in the Syrian conflict, that's nearly 8 times more than what's happened in Gaza. Nobody came out for these children in London, Paris, New York, Sydney, Toronto. None of these Muslim influencers started any trend like #StopGenocideInYemen or #StopGenocideInSyria. They don't care about Muslim lives, it's all about their religion and politics."
 
Apparently, much like black lives, only some dead children matter to the left.   
 
 https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites/status/1721193930551623760


Again, ignore the antisemitism on American streets from the American left.   It's not really a thing.  
 
 

https://twitter.com/arifaajakia/status/1721394754338873361

This is what concern for innocent children looks like, apparently.
 
 

https://twitter.com/thecjpearson/status/1721323163811004761

This is really what black democrats think of black voters.   Or at least one black democrat.


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/bill-maher-slams-critics-west-183938331.htm

More wisdom from Maher.  One wonders why Dan can't be this reasonable?

9 comments:

Marshal Art said...

I shall be responding a few bites at a time:

The first video I saw on TV and it's typical leftist corruption and projection. This guy, who hasn't the courage to live and work in Gaza while spewing his hate, isn't ashamed to say the things he says, which are all lies. Thus, he's not ashamed to lie. Again, very much what we see from the Democratic Party and modern progressive in general. And it's not always the case they know what they say are lies, but that they do nothing to verify or confirm as true what they believe, purport to believe or are trying to convince others the lies they tell are truths.


Before I go any further, I want to reference Dan's claim about who is or isn't on his "side". It's no good trying to distance one's self from some whose actions are most extreme, when what drives those extreme actions are mirrored by one's own beliefs and positions. Thus, the violent protesters in favor of abortion, "LGBTQ+" rights, illegal immigrants and yes, even the pallies as "innocent", are indeed cut from the same cloth as modern "progressives" like Dan. He simply hasn't the spine to own it.

The second link about the "old" (I'm older and still bristle at being referred to as "elderly") Jewish victim of pro-pallie Jew-hatred states they're investigating his death as a "hate crime". Duh! How can it be anything else based on how the left defined the term when they came up with it? I'd have to say the term doesn't apply when the victim of hate is Jewish, white, conservative, Christian or normal. They said pretty much the same thing about that Jewish woman who was stabbed to death last week. The left is a most vile evil for tap dancing in this way, and they do it all the time.

More later.

Craig said...

RE "sides", I'll simply note that Dan is quick to lump everyone he perceives to be a "conservative" all together and to tar everyone with responsibility for the actions of a very few people. He regularly expect us to answer for people who've done egregious things. While he , is quick to divorce any and everyone on the left who does anything bad. He's quick to dismiss them as fringe, marginal, outliers, and the like. The problem is that he seems to be intentionally unaware of where the mainstream of American liberalism is headed, and chooses to live in a Pollyanna world of ideals that most of the APL have long abandoned.

Marshal Art said...

As has he if you think about it. What do we hear most from Dan? "The poor, oppressed and marginalized." Not much more than that, and then only as a platitude given how policies he promotes or supports leads to "harm" he insists to us we "do no.." The prime example is our lack of a national border, and all the terrorists, criminals, victims, illnesses and deadly drugs which are pouring in since his "better man" Biden took office. Dan simply postures.

Marshal Art said...

Point #3

Children are mere props for modern progressives...tools to use to push their anti-American, anti-Christian narrative of marxism. We see that here with all the concern for dead and suffering children focused on the pallie kids, and not the murdered Israeli kids which compelled the response of the Israeli government, which lead to dead pallies. It's about the narrative, and true human suffering matters not. Think of the homosexual community. The harm they cause themselves by giving in to their perverse compulsions is never addressed, except to recommend ways in which they can indulge with some degree of mitigation of damage. Look at the black community suffering, and how the left blames it all on law enforcement responses without so much as a single thought given to the "possibility" of how much of that suffering is self-inflicted.

And getting back to my original response, nowhere is it more apparent than in the condemnation of them towards pro-lifers...that they don't care about the babies being aborted or they'd adopt them all...which is an absurdity. If they truly cared about the babies being aborted...and they don't regard them as people anyway, so obviously they absolutely don't...they'd preach abstinence and chastity or devote their murder supporting donations to inventing true contraception techniques and devices rather than Planned Parenthood.

Point #4

The voice of the stupid and the intentionally uninformed.

Point #5

She must be an "innocent" Pakistani. But clearly, given she appears to be a babe, she's a Pakistani bimbo. And AOC type. Should be ignored except for how dangerous she is.

Point #6

I saw this clip and the chick is a moron. She insists it's a matter of "perception is reality" when the reality is that the perception of black people rejecting Biden is the result of the inability of wise people to ignore the reality they endure. Another truth she pretends doesn't exist is how her position on conservative blacks or blacks who are done with Biden is that she's the one in the fantasy world. And given she's a Democrat, it's clear she has no idea how "this" works.

I would also point to a video clip which got lots of play back when Obama was first stupidly elected of a black woman excited she was to be getting "that Obama money"...meaning more welfare. I would insist that anyone speaking of checks from Trump was parroting that when speaking of how much better their personal finances were as a result of his policies. Conservatives don't think they're being handed actual checks or cash from the government. Or the president, for gosh sakes!

Point #7

Your link didn't take me to Bill Maher, but we've talked about his "getting it" now and then and not being afraid to speak on it. Thus, no need to bother seeking out what you hoped the link would present.

Dan Trabue said...

From Bill Maher (your link, by the way, doesn't lead to Maher's article, but I found it):

“It’s never about ideas. If it was would they be cheering on Hamas for their liberation, liberation to do what more freely preside over a country where there are no laws against sexual harassment, spousal rape, domestic violence, homophobia? honor killings or child marriage? This is who liberals think you should stand with.”

Look, if some liberal/libertarian makes an inane and ridiculous statement, that doesn't mean there's any validity to it. Each opinion/claim should be held on its own merit, whoever it comes from.

No one (read that again and let the depths of the meaning sink in to you) NO ONE SERIOUS in the left supports terrorists who oppose women's rights, LGBTQ rights or Israel's existence.

Do you understand?

Do you think that Biden or Dr King or Dan or progressives generally support ANY group - Hamas included - who would deny women, LGBTQ folk, Jewish folk or ANY ONE basic human rights? I'm serious. WHO in the name of all that is holy, good and rational supports a group of people (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Atheist or otherwise) who denies the right to existence and rights of these groups?

No one.

You'll note that Maher didn't cite a single person who was advocating support for those who'd deny rights to others. I'll also note that you are not citing ONE SINGLE LIBERAL who supports such nonsense. Boogeymen and goblins don't exist, son. Grow up.

To Maher and anyone else who'd make such a suggestion I'd just say: Don't be a simpleton. Be a better person. We don't need such foolish, inane, baseless "opinions."

Dan Trabue said...

Marshal...

I want to reference Dan's claim about who is or isn't on his "side". It's no good trying to distance one's self from some whose actions are most extreme, when what drives those extreme actions are mirrored by one's own beliefs and positions. Thus, the violent protesters in favor of abortion, "LGBTQ+" rights, illegal immigrants and yes, even the pallies as "innocent", are indeed cut from the same cloth as modern "progressives" like Dan

Craig...

. While he , is quick to divorce any and everyone on the left who does anything bad.

I and progressives like me believe in human rights for all humans - women, LGBTQ people, religious believers, atheists, children, the disabled, foreigners, the oppressed, people of color, indigenous groups, etc.

THAT is what progressives or "the Left" stands for.

Therefore, ANYONE who denies human rights and liberties to any of these groups IS NOT A progressive/liberal/the Left. They are not "my side," when they stand for something I'm/we are opposed to.

Don't be simpletons.

Do you think Hamas considers themselves to be progressives? They are violent religious extremists, like so many on the Christian right.

Don't be simpletons, fellas. Be better people.

Disagree about the best/right response to the terrorist attacks on Israel that cost hundreds of innocent livers and the Israeli attacks on Gaza that costs thousands of innocent lives, but don't make obtuse and unsupported claims.

IF you want to make a claim in this vein, then at the very least, provide the quotes from some progressive for me to react to. Baseless stupidly false claims with no support are just so much diarrheic bullshit.

Dan Trabue said...

I'll simply note that Dan is quick to lump everyone he perceives to be a "conservative" all together and to tar everyone with responsibility for the actions of a very few people.

The Proud Boys, KKK types and other white supremacists are SELF-DESCRIBED conservatives who hold to many ideals of conservatism. They vote for conservative politicians, the more insanely extreme "conservative," the better.

Hamas does not consider themselves progressives because, of course, they don't. They don't vote for progressive politicians.

It has nothing with ME lumping people in with conservatives and just me recognizing what they claim about themselves and who they vote for.

Don't be a naive simpleton. Be better men.

Craig said...

"Look, if some liberal/libertarian makes an inane and ridiculous statement, that doesn't mean there's any validity to it. Each opinion/claim should be held on its own merit, whoever it comes from."

Interesting tactic, pretend like this phenomenon is a bunch of singleton outliers rather than thousands of people protesting in the streets, and in positions of power in colleges/universities.

"No one (read that again and let the depths of the meaning sink in to you) NO ONE SERIOUS in the left supports terrorists who oppose women's rights, LGBTQ rights or Israel's existence."

That's quite a claim, but alas with no proof.

"Do you understand?"

I understand that you make this claim, yet I see proof to the contrary all over the place. Unfortunately, I'll go with what I actually see, not simply blindly trusting your unsupported claims.

"Do you think that Biden or Dr King or Dan or progressives generally support ANY group - Hamas included - who would deny women, LGBTQ folk, Jewish folk or ANY ONE basic human rights? I'm serious. WHO in the name of all that is holy, good and rational supports a group of people (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Atheist or otherwise) who denies the right to existence and rights of these groups?"

Yes.

"No one."

Big claim, no proof. I guess the thousands of people chanting "From the river to the sea" just don't count.

"You'll note that Maher didn't cite a single person who was advocating support for those who'd deny rights to others. I'll also note that you are not citing ONE SINGLE LIBERAL who supports such nonsense. Boogeymen and goblins don't exist, son. Grow up."

If you say so.

"To Maher and anyone else who'd make such a suggestion I'd just say: Don't be a simpleton. Be a better person. We don't need such foolish, inane, baseless "opinions.""

If you say so.

Craig said...

"The Proud Boys, KKK types and other white supremacists are SELF-DESCRIBED conservatives who hold to many ideals of conservatism. They vote for conservative politicians, the more insanely extreme "conservative," the better."

The problem is that this is a tiny subset of "conservatives", yet you treat them as if they represent some sort of mainstream part of conservatism, and expect us to accept responsibility for this fringe group.

"Hamas does not consider themselves progressives because, of course, they don't. They don't vote for progressive politicians."

Yet virtually everyone who supports Hamas in the west is a progressive.

"It has nothing with ME lumping people in with conservatives and just me recognizing what they claim about themselves and who they vote for."

Sure it does, because that's what you tend to do.

"Don't be a naive simpleton. Be better men."

Blah, blah, blah.