https://x.com/defiyantlyfree/status/1915055738340401353?s=51&t=cLq01Oy84YkmYPZ-URIMYw
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairness-deportation-under-obama
This is your daily reminder that 75% of removals under Obama were non judicial removals. As in no due process. That’s not me saying it, that’s the ACLU.
https://x.com/swipewright/status/1915119966577213863?s=51&t=cLq01Oy84YkmYPZ-URIMYw
According to Grok, "Around 75–83% of deportations under Obama were nonjudicial, meaning they did not involve a hearing before an immigration judge." Serious questions: Why was this not considered an issue under Obama but it is under Trump? Is it purely political, or is the way Trump is going about deportations fundamentally different than Obama? Am I missing something? I'll live with whatever SCOTUS decides is (un)constitutional, but I'd really like to know the answers to my questions.
We know that Clinton and P-BO deported significantly more people than Trump, and we now know that P-BO denied "due process" to a large percentage of them. Strangely enough, none of the folx bitching about Trump had a problem with P-BO. It's literally the same as when they bitched about "kids in cages" under Trump 1, but not about the exact same conditions under P-BO.
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/democrats-furious-over-obama-administration-deportations
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/01/08/politics/immigration-raids-deportation-democrats-obama
https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/barack-obama-deportations-immigration-104388
Etc.
That you don't remember doesn't mean the outrage was not voiced.
Dan
So, a few folx said a few things about P-BO. where were the court cases and the huge protests?
I'll simply note that two of the pieces are about a specific, small, number of deportations. Not about the vast number of deportations, without "due process" in general. The third is a little more general, but still doesn't address the lack of "due process".
Maybe you've forgotten what had your panties all in a wad, the lack of "due process". The only time you seem all that concerned about "due process" is when illegal aliens are deported (FYI Garcia had his "due process").
But it's a good try. It doesn't really address what I was talking about, but it's good that some on the left did complain a little about P-BO.
I'll note that the pieces you linked to are from 2014 and 2016. A quick perusal of your blog from those years shows no outraged posts about P-BO deporting large numbers of illegal aliens, not outrage about lack of "due process", and no outrage over "kids in cages". It's strange how your outrage is selective like this.
I note that in the picture accompanying the PBS article, the three marching behind "No mas deportationes" are all Spanish looking people. The are referred in the caption as "immigrants". Are they illegals, too? Illegals protesting against illegals being deported should be rounded up and deported, too.
I also note that it's mostly the "Hispanic caucus" who has a problem with Obama's policy...the most likely Dems to welcome Spanish speaking illegals.
I also note that despite mentions of illegals having exhausted all legal options (due process), they continue to seek more opportunities in courts and as Pelosi suggested, be given more legal help in doing so. This addresses concerns for "due process" arguments the left now makes, which will result in long, drawn out hearings and such for millions of people and it will take forever to address them all, just as the asshats on the left wants.
Art,
All of the above seem to be correct. Yet the point remains that multiple DFL administrations deported vastly more illegal aliens than Trump and did so with less "due process", yet the protests/lawsuits were not nearly as significant.
Not to mention the demands for "due process" for those who chose to evade that "process" for legally entering the US.
Indeed. The fact that it existed at all, evidently, is "proof" your claim is false is just typical Trabue dishonesty, as if the "outcry" heard by few is equal to that now expressed by so many. It was not in any way widespread among the same execrable Democrat population as it is now simply because of who is doing the deporting. There was not the same amount/percentage of Dems whining...certainly not the party, and their voters aren't known for paying attention...as we're enduring now.
The "outcry" was clearly much less than what we're seeing currently, and the issue is also different. No court cases, no demands for "due process", nothing but a few Hispanic protesters.
This does seem to be an indication that once the DFL gets what they want from a group, they'll discard them and move on the the next group that wantto exploit.
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